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« on: November 02, 2011, 10:38 PM »

Hi all,

I've searched the forum and haven't seen this covered yet, so figured I would post.  I recently picked up a Radian, and am wondering does anyone have the measurements for the LE APA stoppers?  Specifically the lower spreader APA stoppers, but the uppers would be nice as well for verification purposes.  Mine have slid around a bit and I'd like to glue them back down where they should be.

Also, I'm not completely sure but it looks like the Upper Spreader "T" was moved down on mine for some reason, see photo for details.  It has a large Tedlar patch and new hole cut right below the original.  Not sure why that was done -- I measured my US and it's the correct length of 25.75" so who knows.  Was this perhaps done at Prism for some reason?  Also has a questionable patch job on the upper left part of the sail, but hey it was a good deal so I guess I can't complain.  Wink

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  Mike



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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2011, 10:54 PM »

Mike,

Nice kite you have. For the Upper T, do you see sign of wear on the new position?and how about the old one? If there is some signs of wear then it has been moved to avoid more damages to the sail.
For the stoppers, the best solution will be placing everything in place and tension the sail. move the APA to the right place and with a pencil (it marks nice on carbon rods) marks where the stopper will be positioned.
Please note that upper and lower stoppers don;t have same setup.
Lower will be (from wing tips) - Stopper-bridle-APA
Upper will be (from nose) - Bridle-APA-stopper
Just mark it just 5mm from the end of the sail for it to have some move between the stopper and sail. or you can just put two stoppers on both. Up and down the APA.
Hope this help you.

For the second pacth, seems like a repair on the sail. perhaps too long and large for some tedlar tape where sewing it back was required.

Nice winds to you

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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2011, 11:40 PM »

Thanks B.

No I don't see any signs of wear on the upper T hole, that's the odd part.  It's about 1.25" lower center to center than the original.

Yes the 2nd patch is a repair on the sail, looks like a spreader puncture or rip.  It's 4" long so perhaps tedlar tape wouldn't work in that situation.

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2011, 12:23 AM »

This was Brian Todd's Radian.
Photo from 2002.


Personally, I do not use the upper center-T on any kite that has one. The kite does not need the extra rigidity that it provides. But more importantly, if there is a crash taken mostly on the nose, the upper spreader can come out of the upper spreader connector on one side and (since the US is held against the kite by the upper center-T) poke a hole in the sail near the leading edge connector cutout. I have personally done it to one of Uly's kites (which Dorsal fixed). I do leave the upper center-T on the kite for historical accuracy, but I just let it come along for the ride. These kites aren't ones I use for practicing tricks anyway, so balance is not crucial.

Hopefully, if you look at the photo full size, you may be able to figure out where parts are located. If anyone had the parts in the correct place, it would have been Brian.  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2011, 11:02 AM »

Thanks John, nice photos.

Looks like that's what might have happened previously on this one.  Manual says to only use the US in 10+ winds anyway.

thanks,
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2011, 01:10 PM »

This was Brian Todd's Radian...
If anyone had the parts in the correct place, it would have been Brian.  Smiley

I didn't know Brian personally but I do know he was an exuberant & respected tinkerer, maybe this should read "If anyone had the right setup it would've been Brian"

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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2011, 04:53 PM »

Thanks Mike.

Your wording seems much closer to the truth than mine.  Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2011, 03:23 AM »

I have 2 radians both in great shape, I can say they are like new, one was unflown with still the factory tag on it. If you just have a little patience I'll check the measurements you need and post them  Smiley
Here a couple of pics, maybe looking at them you could start to figure out where fittings are to be set.

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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2011, 02:46 PM »

Thanks Svolazzo, that would be great.  If you could also measure the spine length on yours I'd really appreciate it.  I suspect the spine on mine was replaced at some point in the past which would explain the upper T hole being relocated.  The bottom T is really close to the bottom edge of the oval cutout, basically touches the material at the edge.

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2011, 04:08 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2011, 11:36 AM »

Here is the paint.net file with the Radian specs you were looking for. If you need more let me know  Wink

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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2012, 12:57 PM »

Thanks Svolazzo!

Do you happen to have the overall ULE/LLE lengths?  Or anyone else for that matter.

Sorry to bump this aged thread.

thanks,
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