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« on: February 27, 2012, 11:39 PM »

I've been tinkering with cascades and cometes seeing what I can add to them and came up with a new combo for my trick bag.  I've never seen it before but I'm sure someone had to have done something similar.  I'm calling it an alley oop for lack of a better name atm or the name it already has.  ITs basically a half axel into an upside down insane type rotation.  SOmeone told me the 2nd half of it is called an underwing but I can't find that trick anywhere.  Heres a vid of it.

Alley Oop

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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2012, 12:49 AM »

Very cool!!
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2012, 08:00 AM »

Is that an Essence?

I think this is cool...although I wonder if there is some cleaning up to do?

I am only wondering if you feel there is a perfect Alley Opp where X, Y, and Z are just so?

I am not one to support the naming of new tricks...especially combos.  This doesn't fall into this category for me, so kudos.  On the other hand, very few agree with my interpretation of things of this nature.

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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2012, 12:33 PM »

Is that an Essence?

I think this is cool...although I wonder if there is some cleaning up to do?

I am only wondering if you feel there is a perfect Alley Opp where X, Y, and Z are just so?

I am not one to support the naming of new tricks...especially combos.  This doesn't fall into this category for me, so kudos.  On the other hand, very few agree with my interpretation of things of this nature.

obi
Well in order to get it to completely come around it has to flow smoothly.  YOU use some of the momentum from the initial half axel  to help.  if you do a positive stop on the half axel part it won't come all the way around when you do the 2nd input and the entry has to get the full half axel rotation.  IF you come out with the nose closer to the 5 o'clock position like you do in a comete it won't work.  YOu hit the half axel(2 pop) and just as it comes out of the half axel with the nose at 3 o'clock you pull the bottom wing with an insane input to get the rest of the rotation.  Its still a work in progress but this is the cleanest I've done it.  The timing is tricky and it always fails when I let the half axel completely stop.  When it come around right you can pull out of the trick anywhere from nose at 6 o'clock to nose at 3 o'clock like I do in the vid and it looks good. 
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2012, 01:58 PM »

Is that an Essence?

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nice trick
i tried it, but it didn't work out as planned  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2012, 04:44 PM »

Meh.....
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2012, 05:37 PM »

Is that an Essence?

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nice trick
i tried it, but it didn't work out as planned  Smiley
yea it doesn't always come around if your off a bit.  I'm still working on it myself nailing down the timing and inputs better to see what has to happen.  THe key is the inputs and timing pulling out of the half axel into the flip but I can't quite explain it fully yet except that its similar to an insane.

Meh.....
  Aww not a JW approved trick Tongue 
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2012, 10:43 AM »

That is the way my first tries of a comete look liked...allways good to try new stuff...thanks  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2012, 11:48 AM »

That is the way my first tries of a comete look liked...allways good to try new stuff...thanks  Wink
Heh thats how this started.  Wrong input for a comete then the "damn screwed up the comet but that looked neat I wonder if I can do it again on purpose"  Tongue   BTW if your trying this it works easier off center in the window where you can use the wind to help push it through the flip
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2012, 01:30 PM »

The kind of alley oop in super slow motion at 6:18  Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2012, 02:14 PM »

The kind of alley oop in super slow motion at 6:18  Cheesy

hehe looks like my first attempts to figure it out before I realized it was the momentum started by the half axel that helps make the flip carry through and not stall out flared.
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2012, 02:24 PM »

if you get it flat it's a taz  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2012, 04:43 PM »

Damn Peter you freaking GOOD
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2012, 06:44 PM »

if you get it flat it's a taz  Roll Eyes
If you do a taz from any other entry angle its a 540  Tongue   Not quite the same inputs or rotation as a taz.  Its closer to a half axel / insane combo than a taz only the insane rotation is backward.
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2012, 04:08 AM »

Damn Peter you freaking GOOD
Thanks, but there are many good pilots out there which are much better...the only thing that counts for me, is that we all have fun with the flying and charing this fun with each one of us all  Wink
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