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« on: March 18, 2012, 06:49 AM »

Just bought a Widow at a going out of business sale and am experiencing the oversteer issue. Does anyone have the modifications that would help documented anywhere?
Would be much appreciated.

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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2012, 12:50 PM »

Some of the originals had incorrect bridles that caused some problems, a quick note to Jon T at Skyburner/Skyshark over on the right would probably get you the correct dimensions. The other problem of slightly heavier spars then the original Widowmaker is a more expensive fix.

If you can't get the bridle specs I could try to measure one of our 3-point Widowmaker bridles, the kites appeared to be identical except for the differences in materials used.

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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2012, 04:59 PM »

The kites are not identical... they have subtly different dimensions.  Be sure to request the information for the correct kite.  I'm sure if you specify that yours is the premier version, Jon will send you the correct information.
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2012, 03:11 PM »

Thanks for the info.

When you say I can replace the spars, are we talking everything or just the spreaders? Upper, lower or both? 

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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2012, 03:29 PM »

The biggest difference between the WidowMaker and the Premier Widow is the actual sail.  The Widow is ripstop nylon, the WidowMaker ripstop Poly (Icarex).  This is the main cause for the weight difference.  I wouldn't bother changing out the spars as that would only lighten up the kite a small fraction which wouldn't really do anything for you.  The Widow comes framed in Skyshark P-Series rods anyways so it is already super light.  The only advantage you would probably get is if you go to PT Tapered rods, this would give you slightly more flex towards the ends of the rods which may help a little.

The Widow is an awesome kite to fly anyways.  Other than the extra weight, I found nothing that the WidowMaker could do that the Widow couldn't.  Both of them trick exceptionally well, are super stable, track excellent, etc...  The advantage of the WidowMaker is that it could fly down to 3-4 mph, the Widow's minimum wind was around 5 mph.  To change the frame out, you would be looking at appx. $80-$90.  I would highly suggest holding onto that cash and using it in the swap meet section to purchase another high end kite - if you wanted to.  IMO, that would be a much more wiser way to spend the money instead of trying to modify/improve an already great kite.

If you are really into modifications, do a quick search on this forum for a topic about adding a leech line, that would be much less expensive to do than a re-frame and would probably be more noticeable.

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