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« on: April 12, 2012, 12:17 AM »

g,day all.
i live in land in vic Australia.
i currently have a prism 4d kite!
im a long way from the water and was wandering which stunt kite i should buy please that will suit these conditions such as stuff all wind,bumpy un ruly winds ?
i was considering a blue moon exile but they will not longer be made,then next choice was to may be get a skyburner widowmaker.
is there any other quality kite that i may be able to use in my conditions ?
should i go the liter frame/sail ultralite or standard to help ?
also remove top spreader ?
what strength and length lines as well ?
was thinking of a custom color like orange/black scheme.
thanks
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2012, 04:03 AM »

Your going to get a lot of responses! I'd go for a good standard with nice wind range.

Bumpy and unruly wind is managed more by skill than by which kite is better suited for it. The Widow Maker has a nice wind range with the adjustable upper outhauls. And it's really forgiving with it's trickiness. I flew a WM UL a few years ago but I think I like the standard better. If it was going to be one kite to buy, I'd get the standard.

The kite I fly the most (for no particular reason) is the Deep Space. That's another great, all-around kite too. It doesn't turtle as well as the Widow Maker though. Truth be told, I like the WM better for the tricks it can do.

I'm sure someone will say something about the Talons or one of Lam Hoac's kites but I've never flown any of those.

Linesets? Anywhere from 85' to 110', 90#. Longer lines give you more of the wind window to work with and room to recover from tricks gone bad.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2012, 04:54 AM »

I fly mostly in inland parks surrounded by trees and houses so my wind is variable and lumpy. The Exile is my favourite as it is very tolerant of those conditions so do keep your eyes peeled for a used one but my other favourite is the Deep Space; wide wind range, tolerant of turblulent conditions and will fly down to UL type winds with care, insanely trickable.
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2012, 08:50 AM »

What I have found is UL or SUL which fly in low to very low winds are the most enjoyable inland.  I live on the east side of the Rockies and our best wind is no wind.  When we tend to get winds close to 10 or above they get very gusty and variable in direction.  Makes it very hard to fly.  Best to fly dual line in lower winds where they are more manageable.  For high winds I pull out vented or mid vented revs.

For dual line I fly Lam Hoac Fearless because they do tend to have wider ranges and less messing around with adjustments.
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2012, 12:11 PM »

hi there guys
great,thanks alot for your help,advice and reply!
cheers  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2012, 12:29 PM »

Talon UL tricky and fast!
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2012, 12:35 PM »

The Widowmaker UL is awesome.  You will not regret it at all.  I have one in my A bag at all times and love it.
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2012, 03:24 PM »

I reckon the TNT comp or a vortex with p2x leading edges. They both fly almost as low as an ul but don't have too much sail so they are trickable in 15mph plus winds! The first one has 3pt leading edges that work surprisingly well. I fly on 70kg lines 10-25m long depending on the wind Cool
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2012, 03:40 AM »

thanks again for more replies!
so the widowmaker will still fly ok in lite winds with out much trouble and effort then,cool!
so should i go ultra or super ultra then ?
these bloody inland winds with trees,houses on ovals is truley hopeless at times!
i just want to be able to fly at all times(sounds silly)!
is there much difference between bm exile and the widowmaker as far as keeping it in the air in crap wind conditions ?
you know the thing about sport stunt kites,its a great hobby,not much to them to set up,not alot of out lay $$$ wise and its not some thing you have to fix,repair/modify all the time unlike other hobbies such as mechanical hobbies e.c.t
cheers
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2012, 05:40 AM »

SULs are too flexi and much harder to trick. If you want to fly in low wind, you're better off with a UL. The downside is that they are harder to trick when the wind picks up. I still think a standard with a nice wind range is the way to go. When the wind is too low, get out a no wind kite (like the Emong) that my kids are giving me for Father's Day. Or the Prism 4D! 
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2012, 02:30 PM »

The Widowmaker is only available in UL or Standard - no SUL.  The UL can fly down to 1.5 - 2 mph winds though (with a bit of work), so an SUL really isn't necessary.
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2012, 04:18 PM »

Mojo UL
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2012, 01:45 PM »

Talon UL tricky and fast!

^ this.
But i'm biased.
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2012, 01:51 PM »

thanks again for more replies!
so the widowmaker will still fly ok in lite winds with out much trouble and effort then,cool!
so should i go ultra or super ultra then ?
these bloody inland winds with trees,houses on ovals is truley hopeless at times!
i just want to be able to fly at all times(sounds silly)!
is there much difference between bm exile and the widowmaker as far as keeping it in the air in crap wind conditions ?
you know the thing about sport stunt kites,its a great hobby,not much to them to set up,not alot of out lay $$$ wise and its not some thing you have to fix,repair/modify all the time unlike other hobbies such as mechanical hobbies e.c.t
cheers


Look around for a spot with a lil higher elevation - away from trees and houses - think football field size open area.
The best/lightest trickable kites in the world will still have trouble staying in the air with very turbulent/variable/multi-directional wind.
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