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Author Topic: You Don't Tug On Superman's Cape  (Read 1339 times)
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« on: April 23, 2012, 07:31 PM »

Got a problem.

Been attempting to get a photo of the Dromgold Superman kite
with a streamer tail. The hard part is that I've attached the
cape (tail) at the upper spreader connectors. The kite doesn't
want to fly correctly and a larger problem is that the tail hangs
causing a shadow across the kite sail.

I'm thinking about attaching a Helium balloon to the tip of the
tail in an attempt to get the tail streaming above the kite looking
like Superman is coming in for a landing.

Five photos start here:


Composite:
https://picasaweb.google.com/chilesej/2012Kites#5736191534997436530

Composite (clouds blurred):
https://picasaweb.google.com/chilesej/2012Kites#5736192190196341218
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2012, 09:25 PM »

John, positioning the tail at this level will not make it fly.
Aerodynamically, the kite is blocking the wind to hit it and make it float. Try taking it further up but this might lead in unbalanced kite behavior.
Best would be putting it at the bottom like any tail but this will ruin the Superman concept and what you are looking for..
This would have worked best with an extra vented where the Superman logo is cut from the sail  Grin

Then there is the blending/cheating method in Photoshop we discussed long ago Wink 

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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2012, 09:44 PM »

In my opinion, the picture is great!
As is the kite too!  Smiley
But I guess what you want is to have the kite well up in the air to take the picture against the sky and not trees and houses.
Perhaps one isue is that this cape is actually a kite tail as opposed to Superman's cape which is wider and much shorter...
I guess it depends on your ultimate goal. Do you want it to look more Superman-like or more kite-like?

Cheers,

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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2012, 12:07 AM »

The drag of the tail is whats going to affect the kite most.  I'd try adding 12 inch  leaders to the tail to get it off the back of the kite, into the wind a bit more and get a bit more light on the back of the sail.  Then to get it to fly a bit better try going ABOVE the normal low wind setting to counter act the tendency of the tail wanting to tip the nose back.

 ANother option would be to make a streamer tail out of red polyester organza cloth.  IT should be opaque enough to photo well but sheer enough to let 70-80% of the light through the cloth minimizing the shadow on the kite and porous enough to cut out some of the drag.

Remeber, Supermans cape wasn't neck tie tight but hung across the shoulder blades to get the good flutter you see in the movies
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2012, 02:52 PM »

Don't ya hate it when that damn "Laws Of Physics" thing gets in the way of what you want to do!?
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2012, 04:13 PM »

I'm blaming you Kent.  Roll Eyes

I should have gotten the "floaty" tail.  Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2012, 05:35 PM »

Pic#1 looks really nice. Photoshop a nice blue sky,wispy cloud type of background and get Kent of the hook LOL
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2012, 12:21 PM »

I dunno, my own kid was perfectly satisfied with a red towel clothespinned around his neck for a two-year period of time when he was a little guy. I'm thinking whatever you end up doing will bring forth thoughts of the superguy. Assuming you are going to do your background magic, I love the shot as-is!

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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2012, 02:20 PM »

2 photos added of a composite cloud background.

Composite:
https://picasaweb.google.com/chilesej/2012Kites#5736191534997436530

Composite (clouds blurred):
https://picasaweb.google.com/chilesej/2012Kites#5736192190196341218

This took a long time. The dark background of the original caused a tedious erasure and sometimes
brushing in of the outline of the kite, bridle, and lines. It's not perfect and I may go back and do some
more touch-up if my enthusiasm comes back.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2012, 04:13 PM »

I like 5736191534997436530.

An aside question: Do you tug on Supermans strings??? Grin
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2012, 05:40 PM »

I vote for the non-blurred clouds.
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2012, 10:42 PM »

guess Kent IS of the hook. exceptional work John
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