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« on: May 16, 2009, 12:17 AM »

can anyone help adapt this colour scheme to a 61/49 using ken's colouriser?



i am trying to emphasise the 3d aspect of the kite as tim did by using different shades

but i am soooo bad with this kind of thing and before the computer gets thrown out the window with another failed late night attempt......
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2009, 03:10 AM »

The fourth colour is the problem in the 3x3x3x3 layout of the 61/49

Drop the purple to the keel only.
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2009, 05:20 AM »

thanks andrew

but it still beats me

i can get all the colours in using one scheme on top sail and another on the lower

ken shows a keel with 3 colours (rwb) on his site

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2009, 05:42 AM »

David did you email him yet???
i planned my 61/49 out and sent him my thoughts....then he ran with them.....
i am certain Ken will make it work!!!!!!!
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2009, 06:20 AM »

Hi David,

I agree with Andrew's statement. Something like this perhaps?



If not, Ken's amazing with his color layouts. I'm sure he'll work up something you're happy with.
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2009, 07:13 AM »

Yep, work with Ken via email/phone, he knows his stuff & his kites & will steer you right. Although the help you've gotten here looks dang good to me IMO

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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2009, 07:19 AM »

thanks guys - Mtnflyer, that's lovely. the 3d effect is brilliant!

this is my best effort so far (haven't contacted ken yet):


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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2009, 09:20 AM »

david that one looks pretty good as is!!!!
the nice thing is that due to the panel design if you put two colors that are next to one another hue-wise then it does look very 3d!

mine only has two colors but still when the light hits it the fabric being in different angles bias-wise makes it shimmer!!!
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2009, 12:01 PM »

A few quick ideas -


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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2009, 01:25 PM »

A bunch of ideas.  (should save-as larger)



... and then three more ideas thought up while I was saving/uploading those:







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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2009, 06:22 PM »

I'm putting my vote in for Mtn Flyer's color combo. It's a great interpretation of your color scheme.
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2009, 02:19 AM »

i like mtnfliers design too

but cant replicate it with the colouroiser - dont know if material available in those shadeas

and i want more pinky purple (the fin might do it i guess)

centre right from moe (thanks moe) does it for me but then i start wanting to swap one of the lower black panels and destroy the whole thing!

kens lefthand image could be the one.......
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2009, 06:20 AM »

Actually, (my) first one is the closest to your Airbow.  Raspberry top, black bottom, alternating teal and royal mid section.  Chop the middle section out of the Airbow, and squint and... (okay, maybe a squint a lot Smiley)

I didn't bother playing with fin colours, BTW.  I figure getting the main sail pattern is the hard part, picking a fin colour would be pretty easy (and more up to personal preference - want more teal?  go with teal, want something more 'neutral', use black)

Anyway, evolving off the middle row, far right (hopefully we're talking about the same design!)  Starting from that pattern, tweaking it slightly each time....

Adding raspberry:


Rotation (and swap, or else you'd have teal/teal in the middle on the left)


Adding raspberry, then changed to make it asymmetrical this time


Getting a little star-like in the middle.  Back to the first version in this post, but add raspberry up top:


Or if you'd prefer, echo the raspberry/black theme both top and bottom (minimizes the blue/teal, though):


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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2009, 09:37 AM »

...cant replicate it with the colouroiser - dont know if material available in those shadeas...

Straight from Ken's colorizer, David. Teal (top row, 8th color), light blue (top, 5th color), black, purple (bottom, 7th color) - based on the colors in your Airbow image.

FWIW, this is my suggestion based on your posts above.
- decide whether your primary desire is the 3-d effect or not.
- decide whether you prefer a symmetrical or asym color layout
- pick your top 3 colors. IMO, the tri-panel layout of the 61/49 sails lends itself very well to 3 colors; more and it gets busy and loses its simple elegance, but it can certainly be done.
- decide if a 4th color would work for you as an accent on the keel

A couple of illustrations from the many colorizer images when Ken made mine.

My final design. Black, gray, purple, plum. I went against my own 3-color rule but used the plum as a shade of purple to enhance the 3-d effect between front and rear sails.


My second choice. Again, used the plum to enhance the 3-d effect from the brighter purple. This layout assumes the light is coming from the top left.


Similar to my final design, but I didn't like the asymmetry front sail to rear sail.

I generally prefer darker colors toward the bottom (TE) of a kite as I think they look heavier and therefore more balanced. Not always, but usually. In this case, the 61/49 is a diamond so I thin the darker colors can work on the outside also, kind of like a frame. My final design...


Hope that helps. It's just my preferences and (il)logic. Bottom line, you have to do what works for you.  Tongue

Email Ken. As I said, he's great at interpreting your comments and coming up with a knock-out design.
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2009, 09:40 AM »

BTW, here are Ken's fabric colors.
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