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Author Topic: Talon vs. Hydra?  (Read 5142 times)
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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2009, 04:46 PM »

"...I let a friend of mine try the Hydra today, after he had been flying the Soul for about an hour, and his first (and oft-repeated comment) was "It's FAST!"..."

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I flew a Hydra for about 30 mins at KP7... I really liked it.
A bit slower and less pitchy than the Talon.
Ok, now im confused.
Im absolutley torn between these two, and these quotes arent helping  Huh
I dont want a fast twitchy kite, and im sure both of these are excellent kites, but i wish i knew more about how these two compare side by side.
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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2009, 06:31 PM »


Im absolutley torn between these two, and these quotes arent helping  Huh


At current exchange rates, a Talon is AUD$398 while a Hydra is AUD$380... I'd spend the extra $18  Wink
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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2009, 06:33 PM »

The Talon is smooth and flowing. I wouldn't call it twitchy in any way. Even in 10 to 15 mph wind.


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« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2009, 12:21 PM »

I wouldn't call the Talon 'twitchy' either. It does respond to smaller inputs than some kites - more of a wrist and forearm input than big arm movements.
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« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2009, 02:37 PM »

At current exchange rates, a Talon is AUD$398

Hmmm. Am I doing the exchange wrong? I'm coming up with $310 (using the British Pound and not the Australian Dollar). Does your estimate include shipping, too?
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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2009, 04:49 PM »

At current exchange rates, a Talon is AUD$398

Hmmm. Am I doing the exchange wrong? I'm coming up with $310 (using the British Pound and not the Australian Dollar). Does your estimate include shipping, too?

According to XE dot com GBP198 = AUD402 = USD310 (it has gone up since yesterday).  This is the raw cost of a Talon (unshipped) and you get to choose your colours.

The cost of a custom (choose your own colours) Hydra is USD295 = AUD377.  So the difference is now AUD25 or USD15.  I'd still pay the extra and get a Talon.
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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2009, 08:58 PM »

The shipping charge on my Talon's was $0.00 each.
Don't know what Mark charges to ship to Oz. Or what Focus charges to ship.

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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2009, 03:16 PM »

At current exchange rates, a Talon is AUD$398 while a Hydra is AUD$380... I'd spend the extra $18  Wink

Ok, trigger pulled, Mark has my order  Cool
You were right about the Soul, and you were right about the Double Zero (for different reasons), lets see if you will be 3 from 3.

...and i got permission from management !
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2009, 03:57 PM »

Not a decision I can imagine you regretting.

The Talon has been my 'go to' kite since December 2007.

Santa came up trumps with this one. Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2009, 01:38 PM »

I flew about a dozen kites at Wildwood and I would say the Hydra comes out on top in my opinion. They are not better than the Sea Devil but EVEN in my opinion as this is my go to kite but I personally like kites with easy inputs. The only adjustment I would have to make is for the FADE it does flare out real easy - even more easier than the Sea Devil! Its less twitchy than the QPro. It tracks SOLID with very little PULL. For the money - dollar for dollar its the best kite I flew at Wildwood. Actually DeBaker won the Masters Ballet with this kite. The only dilemma in talking to DeBaker it only comes in the Standard at this time. Its a kite worth testing if you are looking for a new STADARD replacement. I am not sure how better the new Nirvanna could be to this Hydra? I will be at Liberty State Park in July possibly to answer this question (for myself anyway)?
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« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2009, 03:22 PM »

I flew about a dozen kites at Wildwood and I would say the Hydra comes out on top in my opinion. They are not better than the Sea Devil but EVEN in my opinion as this is my go to kite but I personally like kites with easy inputs. The only adjustment I would have to make is for the FADE it does flare out real easy - even more easier than the Sea Devil! Its less twitchy than the QPro. It tracks SOLID with very little PULL. For the money - dollar for dollar its the best kite I flew at Wildwood. Actually DeBaker won the Masters Ballet with this kite. The only dilemma in talking to DeBaker it only comes in the Standard at this time. Its a kite worth testing if you are looking for a new STADARD replacement. I am not sure how better the new Nirvanna could be to this Hydra? I will be at Liberty State Park in July possibly to answer this question (for myself anyway)?

But you didn't fly a Talon right? (and i tought it was THE question asked)
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« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2009, 04:06 PM »

I flew about a dozen kites at Wildwood and I would say the Hydra comes out on top in my opinion. They are not better than the Sea Devil but EVEN in my opinion as this is my go to kite but I personally like kites with easy inputs. The only adjustment I would have to make is for the FADE it does flare out real easy - even more easier than the Sea Devil! Its less twitchy than the QPro. It tracks SOLID with very little PULL. For the money - dollar for dollar its the best kite I flew at Wildwood. Actually DeBaker won the Masters Ballet with this kite. The only dilemma in talking to DeBaker it only comes in the Standard at this time. Its a kite worth testing if you are looking for a new STADARD replacement. I am not sure how better the new Nirvanna could be to this Hydra? I will be at Liberty State Park in July possibly to answer this question (for myself anyway)?

But you didn't fly a Talon right? (and i tought it was THE question asked)

Part of the problem is, there are very few people who've even flown both, let alone own both.  In this crowd, Frazier might be the only one qualified to offer an opinion on the side by side comparision.

Having spent a bit more time with my Hydra, and from having watched it in Paul's hands earlier this month at the Atlantic Coast festival, it has an amazing low wind range capability, thanks to the solid mylar just above the trailing edge.  I've been flying it all weekend in 2-3mph winds.  It actually flies in winds which are too light for my Zephyr, and that's a kite with an advertised 1-17mph wind range.

Likewise, I played around with Glen's Hydra in what had to be 16-20mph winds last month, and while it was bumpier, we were still able to trick with it.  So I wouldn't be put off by this "Standard" label on the kite, since it seems to have a capable range from 2-20, even in my own inexperienced hands.
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« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2009, 04:55 PM »

I can only comment on the Hydra. To me its like the Exile-UL - you will have a tough time finding even one flyer saying: "This kite did not work for me AT ALL." Wink Wink Wink
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« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2009, 04:53 AM »

The only adjustment I would have to make is for the FADE it does flare out real easy - even more easier than the Sea Devil!

Not sure what you mean by this, do you mean it is not easy to hold in a fade?
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« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2009, 05:23 AM »

Well ... we all know about the Talon's so I'll speak up for the Hydra.

Its very nicely built and in the US (for those of you who care about such things) with interesting and innovative design features. It has a big wind range - from UL to strong STD and is not only very freestyle/trick capable - but it has decent precision too. Old skool / flatspins are nice .. and modern yo-yo and turtle moves are there too and very reachable. All this for a very fair price with custom colors available ... what more could you ask for ?

I'll be picking one up later in the year, 'nuff said ?

-Frazer

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