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« on: May 25, 2012, 12:29 PM »

I got this years ago at the prism garage sale. Just today started thinking about putting it together.
Questions.
1. I have the link lines but no pig tails to tie them to. Is there a special way to link the classic microns together?
2. Do I need to get more of the black rubber bands to hold these together?
3. Are the new micron repair parts interchangeable with the classic? I need two standoffs and a upper spreader

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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2012, 12:35 PM »

hey man! welcome back!!!!
black rubber bands???
you want pigtails attached to the back of each kite so that if you need to pull the stack apart it is easy to do so...take some time and make up 2" long ones...

iirc the new microns are bigger all together..... if you have the standoff clips still on the sail you can just copy those and make some new rods....
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2012, 01:43 PM »

The black rubber bands hold the spreaders in I think. There are old rubber bands on all the spreaders so I a guessing.
36 pig tails to tie tonight then. Embarrassed
Good to be back.

Just moved to Dallas TX. Constant 15-30 mph winds so a lot of low wind kites from my Dorey park Richmond VA days will be hitting the swap meet.
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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2012, 03:50 PM »

Ah... the good ol' Micro stack.  Don't forget the spine pigtail.  That would make it 45.  Wink

Yes, it will be easier to use pigtails, especially with the older style Microns.  Did you get the micron stack lines from Prism?  Mine had the pigtails included with the link lines so you might double check.

Awhile back I put together a 4 stack of Microns, 2 old style and 2 new style and it works well.  Unfortunately some of the parts aren't interchangeable.  The US on the old style has those little stoppers at each end, new style does not and is just a straight solid carbon rod.  Old style Micron also does not have LE cutouts for APAs while new style does, so you can't really use the newer APA fittings unless you cut a section out of the LE material - might be worth it if you want to make them all the same (not sure if you have an old/new mix).  Standoffs between old/new are different as well but these might be easily interchanged, I'd have to look at them again.  I'm not quite sure if they were different lengths.  Spreader lengths may also be different between old/new, but I'm sure Steve or someone will have the specs.  I can pull mine out & check later if not.

On mine I just ran the pigtails through the LE "holes" or by the APA, depending on which version it was.  Even lost one of my old style upper spreaders and it still flies fine.. which reminds me, I need to find one of those.

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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2012, 04:27 PM »

Welcome back.  Smiley

Don't forget the tails.

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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2012, 06:28 PM »

Yes mine are old school with holes. I will make pigtails this weekend. Thanks for all the help


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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2012, 10:06 PM »

We have a classic ten stack with the holes in the sail and it does not use the fifth link at the spine.......Works great without it! (sposin' the tiny sail makes it unnecessary as the only wobble is at the take-off in minimal wind- I mean how much can a Micron wobble hobbled in four places?)  Undecided Undecided

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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2012, 09:49 AM »

"how much can a Micron wobble hobbled in four places?" try to say that after a few beers Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2012, 01:28 PM »

Wow! and it didn't break?!  Shocked    Shocked    Shocked
I would have never thought those leading edges were so flexible!   Huh

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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2012, 03:19 PM »

Gotcha.  Agreed, not sure how much the spine link line helps (if any).  My link lines came with a 5th lines so I just used them.

We have a classic ten stack with the holes in the sail and it does not use the fifth link at the spine.......Works great without it! (sposin' the tiny sail makes it unnecessary as the only wobble is at the take-off in minimal wind- I mean how much can a Micron wobble hobbled in four places?)  Undecided Undecided

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Nice pic!

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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2012, 04:13 PM »

Although this picture is not near as good as SKB's, (it doesn't show the deformation of the upper leading edge on the lead kite) it does show the amount of the 'crippled duck' syndrome that seems to be in all of the Micron stacks to some degree.  It doesn't seem to hurt the way the stack flys, but always makes me nervous nonetheless. Always thought I wanted to reframe the lead kite, (I have beefed up the spreaders on it) but now am thinking it would be best served by making a ghost kite for the front of the stack.



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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2012, 04:31 PM »

i would suggest upping the rods int eh first kite of any stack....that first one takes a lot of beating and twisting...that is why a 5th stack line leg would be helpful as well...
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