Canard ability

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[vigli]

Hi
Can anyone compare Canard glider kite with other good glider kites.
Canard  has mediom performance and floaty ability or it on higher level?
thx
all best
boris

[thief]

most of the canards that i think of are are static kites that are stable flyers....
then you have the modified ones: 61/49 and the Plutzs....modified marconi/platz gliders that have a canard aspect to their designs....

the premier Canard i see as a stable lower wind flyer.....with the canard wings being so small on this platform i do not see much gliding ability of it - granted it has been a long time since i have flown of these.

The 61/49 and the plutz series -1,2,3,large,mega - (including the ZeroG from Prism) are designed for gliding and active flying....

there are a number of self made canard-like kites that might have a bit more glide than premier's kite.... definitely a kite design you can tweak as you wish!

[mikenchico]

One aspect of the canard designs taken after the Platz/Marconi design is that most incorporate an adjustable canard to tune the glide ratio. Other designs are tuneable through the spine curvature but I find canard tuning more intuitive and accurate.

I've flown a couple of both designs and couldn't say one or the other has an advantage. I personally like the canard designs better and have found them to be be more responsive or lively, designs like the Manta/Skate I've felt were more stable in a straight line glide.

[thief]

I find that the with the way my 61/49 is set up it does not glide well, it is a super efficient climber and it turns like nothing else!   and gosh darn it i love it that way!

The plutz kites (and Zero G) were designed to be good gliders.
The Plutz1 is a phenomenal climber and an okay glider...this is my favorite...
The Plutz2 is a awesome glider but it cannot climb very well - good for long but short flight areas
The Plutz3 (and ZeroG) are a good combination of climber with a strong essence of a glider.....ceewan worked hard to get the balance between these two aspects...and he did a great job.
The Large Plutz (there are only 7 of them) were funky hybrids that glided okay and climbed okay
The Mega Plutz (soon to be available again) are a giant version of the Plutz 3 so it will glide very well and climb pretty well too.

you can see versions of the Plutz kites:
https://picasaweb.google.com/115067130188444109402/CeewanSPlutzKites?noredirect=1
https://picasaweb.google.com/115067130188444109402/CeewanSCreations?noredirect=1
I have to put up pix of the Mega...dang...

[vigli]

Thanks for help
I fly Canard as a kite, not as a glider.
How to tune it for zero wind condition?
With a lead in the nose-as I read and it is natural to me.
Any info how much lead is ok and does more heavy line is better?
Also does spine curvature has to be changed or just to work with lead...?
thx
boris