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« on: May 17, 2009, 08:26 PM »

The pictures practically speak for themselves.
http://izismile.com/2009/05/13/our_plastic_world_20_pics.html

And here's some discussion on the subject.
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/capt_charles_moore_on_the_seas_of_plastic.html

Here's a sample pict from the first link:



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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2009, 10:58 PM »

The first link didn't work (Works now ?? ) but the second one with the video was highly disturbing. And to think that is pretty much just the litter that has found it's way to the sea. We've watched our community go from a small dump to a landfill in a large canyon which was filled many years ago and is now a mountain towering over the surrounding area.

I envy those communities that have setup recycling for the full garbage stream, pulling out all the metals, glass & plastics and composting the organics, powering the operation with the Methane produced. It's past time to find economically viable ways of recycling our waste stream.

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2009, 11:05 PM »

I more than agree on the highly disturbing aspect.  I just found out about this today and have been disturbed ever since.

That first link seems to work for me every time and I didn't have to sign up for anything.

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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2009, 08:13 AM »

Tucson started a recycling effort about 15 years ago with these small tote type bins for paper, plastic and metal. After a couple of years they switched to 50gal bins, the same size as the garbage.

When I remolded the kitchen 4 years ago I installed a pull out cabinet with 2 kitchen size garbage containers, one for garbage and one for recycle. makes it easy to separate from the get go.

Unfortunately even with every household getting the recycle bins (free of charge) they estimate only a small percentage of the residents are actively participating.

The goal was to reduce the stream by 50% by 2000 but current reduction is closer to 7-8%

It is sad to see what the next generations have to look forward to on planet earth


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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2009, 09:08 AM »

And no one foresees this thread easily crossing the line into political/ideological discussion?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2009, 11:53 AM »

And no one foresees this thread easily crossing the line into political/ideological discussion?  Roll Eyes


Trying to tread lightly  Wink  I'm thinking it's real close but a worthwhile eye opener. It's civil & positive so far.

Kiteking, Mike, good on you, I've seen that before, real nice and makes recycling easier, ours is bags scattered around and although we have to pay for those recycling bins on our bill by County ordinance they also ordained that the collection company does not have to provide them to our rural area  Angry

That's one reason I'm in favor of the whole waste stream going through processing, you gave the other reason in your figures. It's been done in some locals and the operations actually turn a profit, but still there is much that the cost of transportation and re-refining outweighs the cost of new resources, at least if you don't factor in environmental costs like these vids demonstrate.



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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2009, 04:19 PM »

And no one foresees this thread easily crossing the line into political/ideological discussion?  Roll Eyes


Sigh, with a setup like that what can one do:

God darned government agencies don't have a chance! Huh

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