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« on: July 11, 2012, 08:14 PM »

Hi all!
I recently purchased 5 premier vision kites, and would like to fly them as a stack. my question is 4 lines or 5, and does 31 inches seem about right? they measure 63 inches wingtip to wingtip.
 

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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2012, 08:30 PM »

I can measure mine when I get the change. I'm working and going on vacation soon, but I'll try my best.
5 lines, one for each fitting, and the center T.
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2012, 08:35 PM »

YOu will need 4 sets of 5 stack lines.  31 inches will work fine. The rule of thumb for delta stacks link lines is 2/3 the length of the leading edge. I have mine set up with 28 inch links and Mike has a stack with 42 inch links so anything in that range works.  Just make the last set lower outside links 1-2 inches shorter than the rest.

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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2012, 05:52 AM »

Just make the last set lower outside links 1-2 inches shorter than the rest.

I've never made/flown a stack before, and I'd not heard this. What's the reason?

Is there a good how-to/FAQ for stacking you'd recommend?
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2012, 06:04 AM »


I've never made/flown a stack before, and I'd not heard this. What's the reason?

Is there a good how-to/FAQ for stacking you'd recommend?

You need to read this and then call Steve!  Run to the phone!  Most fun you'll ever have. Draws a crowd, and yes, Chicks dig stacks. "is that a stack in that bag or are you just glad to see me?"
http://www.chicokites.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=444
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2012, 06:19 AM »


I've never made/flown a stack before, and I'd not heard this. What's the reason?

Is there a good how-to/FAQ for stacking you'd recommend?

You need to read this and then call Steve!  Run to the phone!  Most fun you'll ever have. Draws a crowd, and yes, Chicks dig stacks. "is that a stack in that bag or are you just glad to see me?"
http://www.chicokites.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=444


Probably someday, but not today. I've already spent >$500 on kites this summer, that's well over what I should be spending. Wink

I was thinking of progressive stacking the ITW DCs. I own the smallest, and I could add to it one-at-a-time. (Well, there are only two more sizes. It would finally be a 3 stack.) But dualie deltas do look more fun. I'm looking now at possibly piecemealing a Nexus stack together, two or three at first, and add the rest later -- but the available colors for single kites are different? And I'm sure buying the stack you linked saves a little money. It's not a small investment, though.

I think I'd be more likely to get the Micron stack, but it's noticeably smaller -- and chicks don't get drawn to small stacks, am I right? Wink
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2012, 07:18 AM »

chicks love any stack. Size doesnt matter Cheesy
One of the nice things about factory stack is the triangle bag. Pull out the kites, put the standoffs in place, spread the kites out, attach lines and go.
I have a 5 stack of adrenalines( with 3 more waiting to be added) and a micros stack. They are alot of fun!
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2012, 07:24 AM »

Besides the savings over purchasing the kites separately you get that sweet triangular bag so you don't have to break the kites completely down or disconnect the stack lines. Just pop out the stand offs., or in when you setup. And in the Nexus's case you get the tails as an addition, Microns do come with a tail in the singles. Worth saving for so you can pop for the pre-pack stack if you're interested.
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2012, 07:38 AM »

Yeah, I noticed that bag issue, too.
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2012, 10:03 AM »

Not having a stack bag right away isn't really an issue.  You can use the velcro roll up ties in the LE cutouts to hold the stack assembled for storage/transport and make a bag like I did out of the single kite bags.
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2012, 10:11 AM »

Well, consider this thread officially hijacked.  Tongue

Getting back to the "how," can I reiterate the question about why the last kite has a different angle of attack? And this is for all (dual line?) stacks?
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2012, 12:49 PM »


I've never made/flown a stack before, and I'd not heard this. What's the reason?

Is there a good how-to/FAQ for stacking you'd recommend?

You need to read this and then call Steve!  Run to the phone!  Most fun you'll ever have. Draws a crowd, and yes, Chicks dig stacks. "is that a stack in that bag or are you just glad to see me?"
http://www.chicokites.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=444


Probably someday, but not today. I've already spent >$500 on kites this summer, that's well over what I should be spending. Wink

Thats it??? jeez..i am about triple that....wait no more than 3x....and have made a few things this year so far as well Wink

Let your addiction sweep you away.....it is fun Wink
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2012, 12:50 PM »

Well, consider this thread officially hijacked.  Tongue

Getting back to the "how," can I reiterate the question about why the last kite has a different angle of attack? And this is for all (dual line?) stacks?

That will help the last kite pull a little more and anchor the stack better as a stack instead of a wiggly mess....
The Dynakites that i used to fly stacked were fun...you could get the stack to fan out sideways like a handful of cards....always fun if you had a stack of 12 or more since your stack went form 3' wide to about 40 wide to one side....
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2012, 01:00 PM »

Well, consider this thread officially hijacked.  Tongue

Getting back to the "how," can I reiterate the question about why the last kite has a different angle of attack? And this is for all (dual line?) stacks?
 You have to adjust the back kite to keep it tracking well with the rest of the stack.  OFten times the back kite will have too much drive and wobble badly causing the stack to mis behave.  THe other thing you need to do is make sure ALL the stack lines are EXACTLY the same length or you will have issues
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2012, 03:06 PM »

+1 to what's been said, don't ask how I know.  Cheesy  I think there's still video out there on YouTube of my Laser 9-stack flailing about when all the stack lines were off.  I found the top lines had stretched over time and were 1-2" longer on each kite.  Over the length of the stack that added up to a 7-8" difference at the back kite.  Sure it pulled like crazy but it wasn't very pretty and near impossible to fly.  I replaced the old dacron lines with Nexus stack lines.

I think mine are about 40-42" apart like Anthony said, counting the pigtails.

-Mike
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