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Author Topic: Kite Trick Tablature  (Read 1663 times)
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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2012, 11:09 AM »

I would describe a lift as a small pull where you then keep the lines in touch with the kite, but not fully tensioned.

So, for a flick flack, for example, you stop the kite in the pancake and then give it a gentle lift back to the fade.   You can't  have much slack or you will not be able to catch the kite in the fade. 

Same for the cascade when lifting the wing.  It's a small input and you are going to pop that same wing in a fraction of a second, so you have no time to fully slack and tension the line, so you give it only enough for the wing to come up - to me that feels like a lift, but technically is really just a flick with little slack. 

Got cha. So a lift would describe the gentle pull you make with both lines for say a fade launch from the ground.

Well this would be pretty exciting to have in your pocket. Hard to watch tutorial videos in the field. Would help when you just can't get that trick down and maybe you could see what you are missing in the sequence since most of us don't have experienced pilots nearby to point out your mistakes.
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2012, 09:18 AM »



  I'm a one-year flyer but a longtime musician and drummer and can read music and guitar tablature. I wonder if letters or pairs of letters might be overly cumbersome to read, especially quickly (sight reading!), and to write. How about using something more graphic, something more similar to musical notes or wind speed line-with-flag markings as seen on weather maps.

  For example:

left hand pull    .]     
right hand pull   [.
left pop (quicker and stronger than a pull) ..]
right pop [..

left push (gentle) ']
right push ['
left hard push (strong, quick) "]
right hard push ["

both hands pull   .][.
both hands push ']['
both hands hard push "]["
both hands pop   ..][..

  Sometimes my computer wants to write smart aka curly quotes “ instead of dumb aka straight quotes " . I don’t know how to control this but I’ll bet someone on this list does. (Or maybe curly quotes are Ok especially if that’s what most software defaults to.)

left hand to neutral      -]
right hand to neutral  [-
both hands to neutral   -][-
(These “return to neutral” markings might prove unnecessary, but maybe occasionally useful, who knows.)

Timing between moves
Back slash to denote one move quickly follows another, for example:
Left pull followed quickly with a right pop
.] / [..

Completion of a trick’s sequence could be noted with some kind of ending mark, like
O
or maybe
#
Or maybe just make a new line.

   One problem is being able to see where one action ends and the next one begins. For example:
Left push, right pop, left pop
']  [..  .]
  might be easier to read if
'] + [..  +  .]
Or
'] ^ [..  ^  .]
Or maybe just bigger spaces
']    [..    .]
  Something simple would be best but don’t know what else to suggest.

  Final thought: It might be even better to create a Trick Tab that was just like musical (actually drum) notation. This approach would allow precise rhythms and accents, etc. But probably too hard to write and read for most folks.
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2012, 11:02 AM »

Left push, right pop, left pop
']  [..  .]
  might be easier to read if
'] + [..  +  .]
Or
'] ^ [..  ^  .]
Or maybe just bigger spaces
']    [..    .]

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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2012, 03:11 PM »

Tom,
Love the idea.
I have had no luck learning off of videos. Videos are focused on the kite. You idea is to focus on hand movement than control the kite.  Grin



Left push, right pop, left pop
']  [..  .]
  might be easier to read if
'] + [..  +  .]
Or
'] ^ [..  ^  .]
Or maybe just bigger spaces
']    [..    .]

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Mike.

Interesting idea, but look like learning a new language. Maybe a few examples would help.
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2012, 06:58 PM »

Tpat, throw down a couple maneuvers on your tab and lets see how easy it is...

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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2012, 07:19 PM »

Left push, right pop, left pop
']  [..  .]
  might be easier to read if
'] + [..  +  .]
Or
'] ^ [..  ^  .]
Or maybe just bigger spaces
']    [..    .]

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Mike.

Flailing, kite nose dives, and frustration?

I think that's pretty accurate.
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