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« on: July 22, 2012, 12:41 PM »

Was just wondering if anybody on here owns one or even watched it in flight? Cost very little to find out but just curious. Seems to be slim info on it and none in search on here which is very odd to me.
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2012, 12:47 PM »

You mean this one?

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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2012, 02:51 PM »

Ooooohhhh... I like that.

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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2012, 07:03 PM »

Yes that is it !  Mainly what I would like to know is it a decent kite to stake and then go fly stunts? Or do you have to babysit the kite to keep it at 1:00 o'clock? That is the only reason I want one to stay pasted in one spot if it has wind. Well I guess not the only reason, I like the way it looks also. lol
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2012, 07:38 PM »

Any info on who makes it?  The only listings I have been able to find for it have been eBay listings. 

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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2012, 07:49 PM »

I'm guessing 4M is a builder and making them far far away from me. Just not a whole lot of info out there on them but he has been building them for over 2 years at least.  He does custom colors and it is a carbon frame that is about all I know on them. Dromel might be able to fill in some blanks when he checks back in.
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2012, 11:34 PM »

I don't know who the manufacturer is, but they are indeed sold by Bing (4mkites) on eBay. Friend of mine got one a few months ago. They're pretty stable fliers, which don't need a lot of wind. He's staked it down and then we went team-flying, so it doesn't need baby-sitting provided the wind remains steady. Looking at the material, none of us understands how they can be sold so cheaply .... In other words, value for money ratio is pretty good!

That friend actually got a second one a few weeks later, and we tried to stack it:



Wasn't a great success, as the two kites were interfering with each other quite a lot. Maybe length and position of the stacking lines need to be tweaked, but this was just an on-the-spot "hey, you got a second one; wonder if we can stack them?" rather than a well thought-out experiment.
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2012, 04:10 AM »

Another Chinese ripoff....the original manta kite like this was designed and is produced by Bruno Cocandeau.....I am currently working with him to get some over here.....
Original design is skyshark rods and icarex skin and costs 300


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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2012, 06:21 AM »

Neither my friend not I had any idea this was a Chinese copy of an existing design ...
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2012, 06:29 AM »

 Sad
I looked at the other listings on EvilBay and saw the Rev knockoffs and decided the maker was smelly. I'm guessing the original is amazing.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2012, 07:13 AM »

Another Chinese ripoff....the original manta kite like this was designed and is produced by Bruno Cocandeau.....I am currently working with him to get some over here.....
Original design is skyshark rods and icarex skin and costs 300



I started to email you before I posted this. I thought I had seen a similiar design kinda like this long ago somewhere. Now it is making sense, no wonder so little info out on it. If I'm understanding you the original is $362.00 USD ? I did not know it was a ripoff and if you chunk this whole topic and start a Manta thread will fully understand. Thanks for info from all. Learn something new everyday if you ask questions.
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2012, 08:20 AM »

The Mobula had popped up before.......i LOVE the shape of it...but then i am a marine biologist Wink

Yep, from Bruno they are 300 Euros...and then shipping....

No reason to start a new thread.....just another example of a kite on ebay that looks like a great deal....

Lex: I would love to hear what you have to say on the design and build quality.....
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2012, 09:30 AM »

As to the design, I really like it (but, as a biologist, what's not to like about a manta/mobula? One of my undergraduate students did her project on giant mantas!), but as I said, I had no idea the design was copied from an existing one (and let's not start the debate again wrt patents, copyright, where to draw the line, etc).

As to build quality, it looks very decent. Sure, not top notch, but much better than you'd expect from the price (they're 35, including shipping, here). That, plus the carbon spars and the quality of the sail material (not icarex, but very decent ripstop) really made us wonder how they could it for that price. Certainly in the UK, the cost of just the material would definitely be higher than 35.
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2012, 10:55 AM »

If you get a chance could you take some detail pix?    Would love to see...

this of course do not say that every kite made in china is cheap or crap.....there are a lot of quality built kites coming out.....
too bad that with all of those minds over there they cannot come up with their own designs............
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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2012, 11:18 AM »

If you get a chance could you take some detail pix?    Would love to see...

this of course do not say that every kite made in china is cheap or crap.....there are a lot of quality built kites coming out.....
too bad that with all of those minds over there they cannot come up with their own designs............

I would also like to see some close up shots if the owner of kites does not mind. If thread is going to stay might as well have the info shots to go with it and take the mystery out of it. However I'm not expecting to see sewing on it to match Ken's !
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