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« on: July 13, 2016, 06:41 AM »

I have a two-line HQ Bolero II with a 64" wingspan.

On a more mild day, it's fine for even my smallest kids to fly.

This past weekend, it looked like a great kite day (lots of tree motion at home), and when we got out to the open field, it was really blowing.  The Bolero was pulling my 8-y-o across the field, and my 5-y-o simply couldn't fly it at all without me holding him.

I'm 6'8" and 195 pounds, and during gusts, if I had the kite dive through the bottom center of the window, it was even pulling me off my feet.  I loved this feeling (the best kite day I've ever had), but my wife felt like it was too scary and didn't want to take any more turns on the straps.

The answer might be "fly on less windy days," sure.  But my kids were able to fly my small pocket parafoil without trouble that day.

I think sail area has a lot to do with it.  But smaller sails also make the kite faster and harder to control, right (Prism Micron)?  Is there any 2-line kite with less pull but gentle flight characteristics?  Vented or something?
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2016, 07:44 AM »

you could try adjusting the bridles.
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2016, 08:48 AM »

So... tilt the nose forward to dump wind out the bottom?
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2016, 10:49 AM »

You can experiment tilting the nose forward (tow point up), but that will make the kite go faster, and as a result it may pull harder. You can also move the tow points down (nose backward) until the kite will not take off, then move them a little up. The kite will be slower and probably will pull less. I regularly use a wind tamer (wind brake, wind shield) on days the wind is too strong. I'll attach a picture. It is a piece of screen that attaches between the toy points and the lines, slowing down the kite.

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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2016, 12:23 PM »

Wind brakes, big tail, fuzzies (for you long-time fliers).

Angle of attack bridle adjustment.

Smaller kite. Vented kite.

Lots of different methods. Good luck.  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2016, 02:00 PM »

Does a tail reduce pull?
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2016, 02:43 PM »

Reduces speed.
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2016, 03:13 PM »

I believe that a tail both reduces speed and pull.

I'm talking big tube tail, not a 25 foot ribbon tail.
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2016, 04:39 PM »

There is also the parafoil/traction kite and buggy option for those high wind days.
It's not a cheap option, so don't tell the wife you heard it here or she might not let you surf the internet unsupervised anymore.
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2016, 04:42 PM »

Normally, the faster the kite moves, the stronger the pull. So whatever technique is used to reduce speed will almost always reduce pull. You can also try longer lines or heavier lines then the ones you normally use. If you fly the kite with 80# lines, try using 150 or 200# lines. They will create more drag, thus reducing speed and pull.
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2016, 03:31 PM »

Tilting the nose forward does increase speed some but not pull.

Imagine skipping a rock on water. Nice flat rocks skip easily and stay on top, where rounder clunky rocks catch water and stop.

It's the same with kites. When you tilt the nose forward you get the kite to ride more on top of the wind instead of grab wind.  Less wind force in the sail means less pull.
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