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Author Topic: Icarex and Quantum Pro  (Read 1375 times)
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« on: August 30, 2012, 02:17 PM »

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Wondering why Quantom Pro is not made with Icarex. i know hi quality kites are made with Icarex ....... but on  Quantum Pro Icarex didn't use.

Any ideas why is that?
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 04:02 PM »

From the pictures on Steve's site it appears to be made out of either PC31/Icarex and mylar. PC31 and Icarex are essentially the same thing.

Not all high end kites are made out of only poly either. The Saber III (Air X) and the Vendetta (Nylon) are great kites not made out of polyester. I believe one of the lightweight Alphakites TNTs is made out of nylon as well.
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2012, 09:08 PM »

The original Quantum Pros were not made with Icarex.

I forget the name of the fabric Prism used for all its kites back then.

Someone will come along with the brand name.

It was Polyester, however.

The newer ones are made with Icarex.

PC31 is Icarex.
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2012, 10:57 PM »

I believe one of the lightweight Alphakites TNTs is made out of nylon as well.

Yes, the TNT Zero and the TNT Ultra Light Competition are made out of AirX.
Also all Veyron's STD, UL and SUL) are AirX.
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2012, 11:11 PM »

The early Q-pros and most of prisms 2000 and earlier kite were made out of Texlon polyester.  The only real difference from Icarex is the size of the ripstop grid.  Maybe the coating but they are both polycarbonate coated polyester.  It was basically the predecesor to PC31 and made by the same textile co.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 11:28 PM »

It was basically the predecessor to PC31 and made by the same textile co.
Icarex­™ is made by Teijin, a Japanese company. Before PC31 (polycarbonate coated polyester cloth, 31g/m˛) there was P31 and P38. The modified coating allegedly gives it the strength of P38 with the low weight of P31.

Texlon is a US corporation that makes a 0.6oz polyester ripstop.

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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 11:51 PM »

Ah Texlon.. thanks.

Definitely not anything like Icarex: Much softer hand, nearer to Nylon in that respect, and not nearly as durable as Icarex.

Not a fan of Texlon.

And as I recall, Prism did use Icarex prior to switching to Texlon at some point.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2012, 11:58 PM »

And as I recall, Prism did use Icarex prior to switching to Texlon at some point.

Texlon use (unquestionably fully licensed) pictures of two Prism kites on their very own product page. And two other weird looking things as well.

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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2012, 12:00 AM »

Hmmm, Rev uses Texlon?

When did that happen?

Am I wrong in thinking Prism ever used Icky?

I thought the early stuff used it.
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2012, 05:18 AM »

Tidy use of beige...
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2012, 08:47 AM »

After reading the replies I realized we actually never answered his question. I'm sure Mark used the materials he used in the Qpro because they are what worked best with his prototypes. I guess what the rest of us are saying, Icarex doesn't always have to be the best choice for a particular model.
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 09:27 AM »

Hmmm, Rev uses Texlon?

When did that happen?

Am I wrong in thinking Prism ever used Icky?

I thought the early stuff used it.

Yes Prism did...I have Total Eclipses that are Icarex......come to think of it so are some of the Eclipses.
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