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Author Topic: Good kite to start learning tricks  (Read 2376 times)
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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2012, 10:40 PM »

I would suggest Premier Designs Night Hawk, it is a good trick kite and can put up with "some" abuse. It responds very well and I think it costs a lot less than a widow maker. My only complaint with this kite is I can not do half axles with it but other than that this kite will put a smile on your face. Oh, and for better fades velcro a little bit of weight to the tail!
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2012, 10:38 AM »

Thanks for all the advice and suggestions!! I was looking around and came across the Premier Jewel, seems it was designed by Jon Trennepohl, I like the way it looks, any one own one? thanks


Never flown the Jewel, but it is a very small kite, under 6 ft.

Small kites tend to need more wind, are less controlable and easy to out grow.  Sad


+1 on buying the largest kite you can afford, new or used. In kites, size really does matter!

I started on a Go Fly a Kite (are they even around anymore?) Storm (about 53") and moved to an HQ Bebop (57"). The BeBop was a much better kite but still small. A kite club friend gave me a Flying Wings Alpha+, which, as I've written elsewhere, is probably the least expensive kite on the new market that has a wingspan of at least 85 inches. It is by far not the best built "big" kite, but it's available for $68 and it's a much easier kite to fly than the smaller ones. Moving from the Bebop to the Alpha+ changed my flying dramatically.

The Premier Widow is significantly more expensive than the Alpha+ (the Widow lists at $160 but I got mine in a closeout sale for $115) but the Widow will keep you happy for a long time.

If all you can afford right now is a $58 kite, the Jewel is not a bad kite but for $10 more, you can get 20 inches more wingspan in an Alpha+. Those 20 inches will make a big difference in your flying.

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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2012, 04:19 PM »

Where can I find an alpha + for 68 dollars?  Smiley Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2012, 05:11 PM »

Where can I find an alpha + for 68 dollars?  Smiley Smiley

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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2012, 11:18 PM »

$115 for the Premier Widow is a sweet price, especially "Ready to Fly" with Spectra lines. 

I've always been a fan of the Prism Quantum for a beginner kite but the Widow is a far more capable kite. If you were willing to consider spending the money on a Quantum I would get all over that Widow.





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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2012, 05:16 PM »

I spoke to Jon and he's toying with changing the frame to make it a light std for me. Sturdy enough for my limited skills and light enough for my crappy winds. Waiting for him to call me back. It'll be worth the price bump for the change.
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