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« on: September 11, 2012, 12:02 PM »

Has anybody flown both of these kites? If so can you give us a comparison. I have flown the widow maker and I really like the way it flies.

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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2012, 12:51 PM »

Both are capable trick kites.

The Zephyr is a light standard not a UL. Zephyr and has a small wind range. Does not match my local wind conditions. YMMV

WM UL in my A bag.  Smiley     Zepher in the closet, waiting for a trip to the beach.  Sad

I also have a freestylist UL. Same price range as the Zephyr and a good choice if you are on a budget.
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2012, 02:38 PM »

Wayner, do you have any comparison to the Premier Widow? I'm debating getting a UL or just getting a higher quality std that can fly well in 4-8mph.
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2012, 03:23 PM »

Wayner, do you have any comparison to the Premier Widow? I'm debating getting a UL or just getting a higher quality std that can fly well in 4-8mph.

Sorry, I have not flown the Permier Widow (talked to people that have), but would have no hesitation buying one.

Buying choices are always hard. For me I would buy a UL if I had a standard. Because you cant control the wind.  Cheesy   Your  4-8 is the low to mid for std and mid to high for a UL.

Some tricks are easier to learn on a std while others on a UL. So for me having a UL & Std means more time to fly  Smiley  and two diffent style of kites to learn on.  Smiley

Let us know what you decide. 
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2012, 03:38 PM »

Tmadz, Go for the higher quality std. They'll fly in 3 to 12 or more. FTR, the Widow Maker flies much better (and lighter) than the Widow.
Wayne, look at the Talon UL. Its a very capable kite. Maybe John would let you try his. A Zephyr would be way down on my list of recommended kites.

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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2012, 04:37 PM »

Tmadz, Go for the higher quality std. They'll fly in 3 to 12 or more. FTR, the Widow Maker flies much better (and lighter) than the Widow.
Wayne, look at the Talon UL. Its a very capable kite. Maybe John would let you try his. A Zephyr would be way down on my list of recommended kites.

Denny

Thanks Denny. I'm close to pulling the trigger on the Widow (Jon T has an awesome price right now to move the old design) just because of price point on the WM. I have a Hypnotist that I can't get to do anything under 8mph in inland winds. I'm looking for more active lower range inland to keep working on some of the tricks I've started to pick up.

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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2012, 04:50 PM »

Wayne, look at the Talon UL. Its a very capable kite. Maybe John would let you try his. A Zephyr would be way down on my list of recommended kites.

Denny
Hi Denny

I do have a talon UL, My favorite kite.  Grin  Just been unable to fly it.  Embarrassed
Local winds have keep it grounded for most of the last month. Either to low (shadow, WM UL, Amazing SUL) or to high. (STD or vented)

Local winds can drive a lot of choices. Our last weekly fly, started with 2 Talon UL and 1 WM UL. Then the wind dropped lower. Next 4 hours had 3 WM UL and 2 shadows as the only kites flying.

For me I prefer a UL to reducing the weight in a std. The std still lose a lot of alltitue during tricks and I have learnd so much from the slow movement of a UL

A Zephyr would be way down on my list of recommended kites.

Zephyr is low on my list as well.



On day look forward to trying a TNT.


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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2012, 06:29 PM »

Sorry Wayne R, that was meant for Wayne S. the OP.  Wink

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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2012, 06:40 PM »

Sorry Wayne R, that was meant for Wayne S. the OP.  Wink

Denny

Wayne? Oops. Heh.... I thought his name was Duane. Heard that wrong!
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2012, 08:25 PM »

lol that's alright, it gets confused all the time.
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2012, 12:12 AM »

Heh.... well you answered when I hollered for your phone number.  Cheesy  Which reminds me-- I listed you as "Duane" in my phone. The way my mind works these days, you just might be Duane forevermore in the party that passes for my brain these days.
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2012, 10:22 AM »

While we're on the subject of UL kites, I'd like add that UL kites are also my preference. They fly gracefully and easy for those who are on a trick learning curve like myself. Question for those who own both Talon std and UL(Don't mean to hijack the post but I thought its related), are there significant differences making it worth it to own both since their lower wind ranges are very close (5 - 25 mph for std and 4 - 15 mph for UL)?
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2012, 10:46 AM »

When the wind is below 5 mph, the differences

between the standard and UL as far as ease of flight

are readily apparent.
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