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« on: September 24, 2012, 11:54 AM »

I'm thinking of buying the Delta Conyne stack from ITW, which recommends 300# line.

Can this safely be flown by hand with 300# line on a hoop, or is this something that should be anchored?
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 11:56 AM »

I would anchor anything on a 300# line, unless you're up for some fun. Although, the instability of getting pulled around the field/beach might cause your stack to fall.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 02:51 PM »

To find out it's a simple experiment . Toss the line over a tree branch attach a 2o lb weight and if you can hold for as long as you plan on flying you don't need an anchor.
not trying to be snotty but it will give you the feel . much better for you than finding out you need an anchor and havent got one.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2012, 02:59 PM »

Ask Devin what a day we had TRYING to fly all three together.  Didn't happen.  Probably can't happen for them to fly stable./  I own the large one with Color Spinners a set of four.  Two large and two small.  A multi-color Flaf line ..Jon T.  Changed my carbon rods to lighter and stronger one's.  The Kite fly's no other in No wind kind of days.  She floats and stays put.. but all three on one line... Ask Devin he'll scream...  They look good together but stacked you could regret it.  Line strength is no way #300.  I flyt my Three Bonitos on #200 line.  We had four on the same line... Hope this helps...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2012, 05:47 PM »

I fly many SLKs and use line from 20# to 1200#.

I have anchored down kites on 20# line and hand flown others on 300# line. It depends on the situation and how I am feeling. But SAFETY must come first.

The key SAFETY question is can you RETREIVE the kite.  Roll Eyes

The rule would be always set a anchor first before you launch ANY kite(s) that you may not be able to retreive. Then you just need the skills to tie a line with tension on it.  Cheesy  (be glad to help if you need it)

Ability to fly be hand, is not based on line strength but the amount of pull. In 10mph you maybe fine 15 mph and your in trouble Shocked

remember you can adjust the bridle point to lower the pull in higher winds Grin

So, to answer your question. Yes you can in some winds you can. But would you want to. You may get tired soon.

I have a 6 stack of gomberg DC at 9' each. Wouldn't ever fly all 6 in a train by hand. But in the right winds, a 3 stack sounds just right.  Wink

Oh yes, at the beach you use a sand anchor Cool
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2012, 06:01 PM »

I love DC. They are my favorite SLK. Have the in different sizes, stacks and Double DC.  Cool  Perfect fit you my local wind conditions.

With the Into the Wind DC kites coming in three sizes, what kites you choose to stack will have BIG inpact on line pull

The Mesa DC is a small kite and a 3 stack will be easy to fly.

The Rocky Mountian DC is a mid size and will work for medium wind. Plan on a anchor for higher winds.

A 3 stack of the large Alpine DCs should include a plan on anchoring. but would expect you to be able to fly in ligher winds.

A progressve DC stack will be in the same range as the Rocky Mountain 3 stack.

Remember if you add tails and line laundry is will increase the pull. Not by a lot but is will increase.

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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2012, 06:31 PM »

Manufactures usually over state the required line needed. They also take into account the higher pull realized during launch. Delta based kites don't have a lot of pull once overhead. I have hand held an 86 Power Sled, recommended line weight 1000 lb, in significant winds but I   had help on hand to bring the kite down.

As stated above "Safety First". Two lengths of rebar or a sand anchor and/or a dog leash are inexpensive insurance against injuring yourself or others.

I stake any SLK unless displaying it during a show or judging, I'd rather be free to visit , walk around and take pictures, or have a nap then tied to a kite.
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