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Author Topic: Sky Burner Ocius or HQ Shadow for my next UL?  (Read 1428 times)
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« on: September 26, 2012, 03:21 AM »

Hi everyone,

What would people recommend between a Sky Burner Ocius UL and a HQ Shadow for my next UL?

I need something that tricks well in the wind range gap I have where my 4D and INaK end, and before my Prism Zephyr starts to come to life.  So I'm thinking somewhere in between 1-2mph up to 5 or 6mph.

It doesn't need to go much higher as I have the Zeph and then the Silver Fox Pro Std, but it would be good if it tricks well between 1 to 5mph.

After reading this thread: http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=8442.0

I'm leaning towards the HQ shadow, but the Ocius UL is also available in Australia and in my price range so I'd like to hear from anyone who has one of those as well.

Thanks in advance  Smiley

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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2012, 04:03 AM »

From personal experience, anything below 3-4 inland is really hard to fly in, much less trick unless you're super experienced and skilled. Below 3 mph is probably more SUL territory than UL and then you're dealing with fragile framing and little to practically no mass for the kite to trick with.

More realistically, a UL will help fill the gap below where your standards are flying but there IS a bottom end of the wind range where a UL will have trouble too.

From what I've read, the Shadow is a decent kite but I think people have said that it's more of a light standard than a UL. I think the Ocius is decent too but I've only flown the standard (once). I really like Skyburner Kites (Jon T's Widow Maker is amazing) and the standard flew very nicely. The UL would probably be good too. In any case, with low wind, it becomes more pilot skill than anything else and I'm sure either one would be okay. The important thing is to get out there and FLY!
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2012, 06:01 AM »

The Shadow is almost an SUL!!

The Ocius UL behaves more like a normal sport kite.

The Shadow tricks in a more spirited, but less traditional way.

Both are very nice kites. The Shadow will probably need a bridle adjustment.

I own a Shadow, but it is now on loan to my son.
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2012, 08:42 AM »

For your wind range you may want to consiter the Ocius SUL.

The ligher mass means less trickability but is will be much more than your INak of 4D.

It will fly in lower winds that the Shadow or Ocius UL.


Just another choice to confuse the issue Roll Eyes

ps. I own a Shadow like John. & have flown the Ocius SUL & UL.
Love the Shadow, but you can't enjoy it if you don't have the wind for it.
If your winds are mostly 1-2 its SUL time. If winds are 3-6 go with the Shadow.
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2012, 09:32 AM »

I'd do the Ocius SUL. Way less of a pain then the Shadow, and more rewarding to fly. Whatever you choose, enjoy the (potentially) new toy!
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2012, 08:51 PM »

 I've flown but do not own the Ocius UL and SUL as well as the Shadow, personally I think the Ocius tricks better than the Shadow but it may be that the ocius agrees with my flying style more. Both are fun to fly, the Ocius SUL and Shadow are very lite and floaty like the 4D. The Ocius UL is a bit heavier with a more STD kite feel to it and you can be a bit more agressive with your inputs and it has better pitch capabilities as well.
 I do own both a 4D and a Zephyr and considering that you are looking for something to fill the gap between the those two I would suggest an Ocius UL. But..... if your winds tend to be more in the 1-2 range you better go with the SUL. The Ocius UL will fly in lower winds than the Zeph but not by too much.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2012, 03:26 AM »

Thanks everyone, your advice has helped me clarify the difference between what I want and what I actually need  Smiley

I'm thinking i may just hold off a bit, and just keep on working and practicing with what I have.  When all is said and done it is a very small wind range that i'm missing out trick wise in, and I probably don't really need to spend money to cover the couple of mph range i'm missing out on, not till i get a bit better at flying maybe and can appreciate it.

I think I just wanted to talk myself into getting another kite, when what I really need to do is practise with what I have lol  Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2012, 06:31 AM »

Learn to fly your std kite in UL wind. It will make you a better pilot.  Wink

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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2012, 09:29 AM »

Learn to fly your std kite in UL wind. It will make you a better pilot.  Wink

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Also a good way to lose a few pounds.   Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2012, 10:12 AM »

Learn to fly your std kite in UL wind. It will make you a better pilot.  Wink

Denny

Also a good way to lose a few pounds.   Cheesy
So I've lost 30lbs. since my own adventure began. I figure I have about 50 more to go before I qualify as a decent pilot.
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