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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2013, 12:58 PM »

can u post pics so we can see
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2013, 01:02 PM »

Pics and videos here, here, and here. And more pics showing the building process here.
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2013, 07:05 PM »

I found it interesting that given the center point of the turns (wingtip), the whole rudder assembly (fixed and moveable parts) is being dragged sideways through the air current.

Seems like taking the whole tail off would lead to sharper or at least quicker turns.
I know that you're building a performance kite, but aiming more for an accurate historical replica.
But I just thought this is interesting angle to consider for the mental exercise alone.

I applaud your efforts.
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2013, 11:42 PM »

The rudder control lines go through D-rings on the cross spars, and when I flew the kite first without rudder, the control lines were tied directly to these D-rings. So a pull on one of the lines would directly lead to that wing being pulled towards the flyer and the kite would turn in that direction. With the rudder, a pull on a line first leads to the rudder turning, and when the rudder has reached max turn and 'locks', any further pull on that line again pulls directly on the D-ring/wing again. Hope I'm explaining this clearly, but what you basically have is a two-stage process. First part of the pull turns the rudder, second part pulls directly on the wing. My (naive?) thought is that that should make the kite turn slower than without a rudder.

Anyone care to point out the flaw in my reasoning?
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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2013, 06:40 AM »

Very nice work.  I like the thought and design that went into the modern rudder.

Is it really larger than the originals?  I always thought the originals were pretty big.

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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2013, 06:43 AM »

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Is it really larger than the originals?

Didn't say it was! But my rudder has a larger moveable proportion than the original.
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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2013, 07:53 AM »

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And you may have noted that on my kite the rudder is larger relative to the keel than on the original Target Kite

Sure enough, upon reflection that's what you said.  But as your keel - and probably more importantly rudder - are actually smaller than the original - there's no direct comparison as to what effect the rudder might have.  Never having flown one, I certainly cannot say. 
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« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2013, 03:37 AM »

Project completed!
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« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2013, 08:08 AM »

Those have come out great. Please keep us in the loop when you get a video of a routine, really looking forward to something after a bit of practice on them and you finding what the kites can do.
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