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« on: October 15, 2012, 03:01 PM »

I have been doing the cascade for 10 years but with the incorrect arm movements.  Instead of popping/pulling my arm to the back next to my waist, I pop/pull it towards my belly.  I can still do the cascade, but when the wind picks up a bit, it is getting a bit difficult because the arm movement is limited. 

It is quite difficult for me to correct it since I have been doing like this for a decade.  Sad

Does anyone here have the same problem?

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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2012, 03:33 PM »

This is common.

You have got to break yourself of this habit if you want to progress as a flier.

Re-train yourself now.

It doesn't get any easier.
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2012, 04:06 PM »

I watched lots of videos. Richard Debray, Mathieu Mayet, Mathias Haack, Tim Benson, Christian Stahl, etc. Burn those images into your brain then go to the field and try to duplicate them. It worked for me. It may work for you too.

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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2012, 05:09 PM »

I watched lots of videos. Richard Debray, Mathieu Mayet, Mathias Haack, Tim Benson, Christian Stahl, etc.

Denny

Are these video's online?
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2012, 05:13 PM »

Are these video's online?

Yes they are.

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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2012, 05:48 PM »

not incorrect arm movements....just old skool!!!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2012, 06:43 PM »

Do this ->

Half Axel Cascade Studies 2

Doesn't look difficult, does it ?

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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2012, 07:33 PM »

I'm actually working through the same problem, I found that it helps me if I rotate my torso as I am doing the cascade. Seems to work for me. Might be worth a try.
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2012, 07:49 PM »

Thanks, I will give it a shot.  I hope I can rectify it in one or two session of flights.
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2012, 08:49 PM »




Doesn't look difficult, does it ?

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 Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy :'(
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2012, 03:22 AM »

Do this ->


Doesn't look difficult, does it ?

Mike.

Yep. No more movement than that required. If you're attempting a fountain (rising cascade), maybe a bit of a sharp, upward movement with opposite hand (one attached to the up-wing), to both stop the rotation and pull that wing a bit higher in the window with each rotation.

I used to love watching people who'd learn to axel with that old skool across-the-chest sweep of the arm attempt to move on to the cascade  Shocked After enough chest pounding they eventually either gave up or went back to school and learned it correctly  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2012, 05:23 AM »

After enough chest pounding they eventually either gave up or went back to school and learned it correctly  Wink

Pah! Never! Even though I do everything else by my sides I still slip into chest beating when I cascade  Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2012, 08:15 AM »

I learnt to cascade on a Fury - no chance of using the chest-beating technique with that kite Cheesy
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2012, 09:04 AM »

I recently learned the "across the body" half axel...from watching Martin's HA video, no less. I figured that was the way I was supposed to do it! At least if I wanted to be like mama74, and let's face it, who doesn't?

Now I have to (re)learn to do it with a straight pull.

Is there a video of this chest-beating cascade? Purely for humor purposes. Cross my heart, I won't try it. Wink
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2012, 09:25 AM »

These guys get a pretty close approximation when they reach high to their upper arms.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=6TS9ugnarQQ&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D6TS9ugnarQQ


This is what I always think of when I see the 'across the body, lift your arm up near your face' cascade technique.   I know a guy who does it just fine this way, but his speed is limited - and it's hard to keep a straight face when you see him do it.
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