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« on: November 07, 2012, 02:57 PM »

Flying from left to right, do a half axel by popping the upper wing.  As soon as the nose is pointing away, tug with the right hand to initiate the 540.  However, the kite can only spin 180 though I have a couple of times making it spin 540.  What have I done wrong? 
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 03:03 PM »

If it does an occasional 540, isn't that a taz machine.  Do it like that.

You need to give more slack than for a half axel to get that nose high.  Turning down just before starting the half axel entry part helps to tilt the kite for the rotation.

On most kites, this is an advanced trick.

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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2012, 03:06 PM »

Wait until the nose is not only away, but also higher than the tail.  The timing varies per kite which is what makes the trick extra challenging.

I think that it us easier to do them from a cascade initially in order to train yourself to see the right moment to go for the rotation.

On most kites you will also need to slack initially with the off hand and then step forward in order to allow it to rotate.  
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2012, 03:12 PM »

How to make the nose always higher than the tail?  .. flying from left to right with the nose slightly pointing downward?

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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2012, 03:28 PM »

Some kites pop nose up right away, others you have to wait a bit.  What do you fly?
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2012, 03:35 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2012, 04:51 PM »

Fearless is easy - it does nice flat slow ones.  For that kite, don't go too early - wait until the tail is down and its very reliable.    Move forward for the rotation - it does them nice and slow so you need some slack for it to go all that way around.

Also, start high in the window in the beginning, its just easier.  The SUL is where I like them best - it's a bit more floaty and makes it easier.
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2012, 05:31 PM »

OK.  I will try again tomorrow.
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2012, 01:32 AM »

IMHO it's also in the timing of giving slack. You need to give slack right after the pop. If timed too late, the rotation is already slowed down so it won't make the full rotation. The step forward always helps me.
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2012, 04:18 AM »

Fearless is easy - it does nice flat slow ones.  For that kite, don't go too early - wait until the tail is down and its very reliable.    Move forward for the rotation - it does them nice and slow so you need some slack for it to go all that way around.

Also, start high in the window in the beginning, its just easier.  The SUL is where I like them best - it's a bit more floaty and makes it easier.

My F-SUL and Transformer SUL taz better for me.  I still have a hard time with the VL as when I do the half axel input the nose goes so high up that when I give the spin input the kite spins with the wings down.  Hard to describe- need video.  I find that if I do give slack with the second input hand and pop as the slack is naturally taken up I get better rotations.  Kind of a weird explanation. 
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