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« on: November 11, 2012, 05:09 PM »

This is large, surprisingly tricky, well made sport kite.

It comes with a tail weight (about a 12" solid rod fitting inside the spine).
It really needs more weight if you're thinking yoyo.

It's almost 12 feet across, pultruded frame, battens and nice looks.
The lower spreaders are sealed at both ends for added strength.
The sewing/finish is very nice and the nose is very clean.

Before you fly it, there are a few "touch-ups".
 1 Shorten the battens about 1/2 inch (DO IT or buy replacement connectors)
 2 Replace or retie the wingtip tensioners to tighten sail and add curvature.
 3 Adjust center "limiter bridle leg to just slack with bridle legs taut.
 4 Adjust leech lines to your desired noise level (mine was silent)
 5 Add "insurance" elastic line to hold battens in place (just in case)
 6 Add vinyl end caps to keep the wingtips clean and lines taut
 7 Add an extra adjustment knot to the upper inhaul line
 8 Shorten upper inhaul about 4 inches (I'm a woos)
 9 Don't bother attempting to add end caps to the upper batten end as the
     batten connector opening is too small to allow this protective action (I don't get it)

The lower spreaders have a tendency to slowly work out of the LE connectors.
The connectors are under rotational stress when assembled (not a good idea)
The engagement is good, just make sure you check them often if you are doing tricks.

So, all 4 leading edge connectors and the batten/leading edge connectors are made so that
they have to be torqued into assembly position. Tacky, but acceptable.

I flew the kite Friday night in winds from 5 to 15 mph. Although the catalog

says "the fun begins at 1 Beaufort", their idea of fun is different than mine.

At least at 2300 feet elevation on a 50F evening, the kite needs about 8 mph

(3 Beaufort) to actually behave like a real sport kite. And then the fun begins.

I was able to do

 Jacob's ladder rungs
 Flic-flacs
 Fade launch
 Lazy Susans
 Axel to fade
 Snap stall (not pretty or snappy, but recognizable)
 Cascades (barely)

I didn't try any barrel rolls, backspins, yoyos (needs more weight).

Oddly, Joe, who is a much trickier flier than I am, couldn't get the

kite to do much. I'm guessing that means this is more of an old-school

trick kite. It does nice lines, but has the turning radius of a 63 Riviera (I had one).

I didn't mess with the bridle, other than to shorten the upper inhaul.

I liked it a lot, after the adjustments.

In the very nice kite sleeve/bag, you are looking at about a 7 foot tall item.  Huh

Yep, it's not going into anyone's kite bag, unless you have one of those super

custom Kite Connection bags.

I'm not a fan of text on kites, but it appears almost abstract. Green it is and green

is your only option. I happen to like green.

It's somewhere just above $400. But you do get a lot of kite for the money.

Several pictures start at the linked photo below:




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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2012, 05:23 PM »


Sorry I missed flying this. Was not feeling well and left early.  Sad

I have the standard size fazer which is a speed kite.

I suprised you could do any tricks.  Huh  How much did this pull?  Is it a speed kite?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2012, 05:29 PM »

dang.......................
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2012, 10:57 PM »

Interesting John, I always thought the Fazer was marketed as more of a speed/power kite.  Nice that you were able to get some tricks out of it though.
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2012, 11:12 PM »

Not a speed kite at all. Felt like a normal, 12 foot trick kite to me.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2012, 04:42 AM »

 I sure would like to give it a try, but not for $400. Too bad about the design. Definitely a winner for the ugly kite contest.  Shocked
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2012, 12:09 PM »

Too bad about the design. Definitely a winner for the ugly kite contest.  Shocked

Think that is inevitable when you include that much text on a sail. 

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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2012, 06:25 PM »

Well of course it doesn't feels like having any power or speed if you shorten the upper bridle leg by 4 inches Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2012, 07:18 PM »

Couldn't get it to fly in the low wind.

Perhaps my skill level is inadequate.

I did get a K2000 3 times. The 4th time, the lower standoff exploded.

Standoff fixed. I am guessing fliers in the states might be more interested

in a speed kite if they knew it could do some tricks also.

Tried for a movie today. Winds weren't cooperating. If the winds pick up,

I'll lengthen the bridle leg and go for some speed.  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2012, 07:42 PM »

Well, an actual speedkite knows only one trick, flying really fast. They are not build for doing any tricks at all. Granted some people think even getting them to fly is a trick in itself...
The basic method to start them in low winds is to slowly pull the kite upright till it starts to fall forward, then about halfway to the ground pull very quickly to launch the kite and step back to generate wind and forward motion.
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2012, 09:01 PM »

Fazer is Finland's favourite chocolate manufacturer. I just felt the need to share this nugget of information. Undecided

Mike.
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2012, 10:04 PM »

Do they make an XXL size bar of chocolate?

I always liked the European chocolates.

Not overly sweet. Just like you zippy8.   Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2012, 10:31 PM »

Do they make an XXL size bar of chocolate?
They surely do.

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I always liked the European chocolates.
This is pasty stuff. Low cocoa %. I doubt the Belgians, Germans or Swiss would regard this as proper chocolate.

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Not overly sweet. Just like you zippy8. 
Oooooook-aaaa-yyyy then  Shocked

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