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« on: December 14, 2012, 08:06 AM »

hi,
did anyone of You made comete trick with Elixir and can Elixir  made comete trick?
Comete is more new trick!
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2012, 08:17 AM »

If a kite can do an half axel and a snap lazy, then it can do the comete.

I think Elixir can do both and so it should be able to comete.
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2012, 10:55 AM »

Yes the Lix can comete and quite nicely too.  There is just a few yoyo trick variations I haven't been able to to on the lix due to lack of stops but so far there isn't a trick out that this kite can't do.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2012, 06:47 PM »

It is really no problem to add the stoppers to the Elixir.
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2012, 07:21 PM »

While it may be easy to add stoppers, there is no real need to.

The kite will fly, wound up, without stoppers even if you miss the

upper spreader connectors with the lines. The curvature of the

leading edge is sufficient to hold the lines in simple flying.

Granted hard cornering or multiple yoyos probably won't work

without the stoppers.

The Elixir is the most complete trick kite, even by today's standards,

that does not resort to weights or stoppers. Just my opinion.
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2012, 08:11 PM »

It seems to me that designers have kind of gotten lazy since weights have come into common use.  I've been doing a lot of experimenting lately with fine tuning a few kites in my bag to my liking and have come across several ways to get pitch performance without weight. One of my kites came with 40g tail weight and with a couple fitting changes and a nose mod I have been able to take it down to 10g and still get the same rollup performance, better low end wind range and tracking.  Btw John the dualie we have been talking about is well into the design stage now and I hope to have a close to final flyable prototype this summer.
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2012, 12:07 AM »

Looking forward to seeing your prototype.  Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2012, 09:10 AM »


Me too  Grin

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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2012, 01:46 PM »

Me three...
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2012, 07:29 PM »

This is the only kite that i sold that i was stupid to sell. I need to find another one. Its so much fun to fly and it was wayyyyyyy ahead of its time.
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2012, 08:03 PM »

Why doesn't Prism make the Elixir anymore?
They've axed some very good designs over the years.  Lips sealed


QUestion of the century.  THe Eclipse was axed for the updated E2 and E3 so thats understandable.  I would assume it had something to do with production issues when prism moved to china and opting for a more modern design.  However there was the issue of blown out panel seams that Mark struggled with for a while on the early elixirs.
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2012, 09:01 PM »

The Eclipse was axed long before the E2 came out. Shame-They were super kites.
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2012, 10:12 PM »

The Eclipse was axed long before the E2 came out. Shame-They were super kites.

Yes it was but IIRC Mark was working on the E2 for a while as a followup to the eclipse to add in a few things the eclipse doesn't do so well.  THe E2 brought in better backflip/JL performance as well as some yoyo and the E3 is the yoyo monster of the line.  But IMO the original (with the turbo bridle change) is still the best of the three. 

The Elixir IMO may not be able to be improved upon.  I've done a lot of tinkering on mine and no matter what I do I end up back at stock.  THe only improvement I would make is adding stops for easier yoyo catches but thats about it.  It doesn't need tail weight and tracking can be improved by adjusting the standoffs.  I did have a chance to fly a kind of UL version framed in skinny's that was pretty nice but not a very good frame for that kite strength wise.  I've always wondered what JW's custom ul/sul was framed in but since someone decided they needed it more than JW we might never know unless JW can remember the specs.
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