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« on: Yesterday at 11:57 AM »

Hey guys I got a few months back i got a Skyform Lifter 60 from someone and its looks amazing.  Was wondering what line strength should i be using.  I think i already have 150lb but don't think thats enough... What are your thoughts....

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« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 12:34 PM »

750lb minimum, 1000lb would be better. Iíve started using Technora line, and fly my Skyhook 100s on 950lb line.
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« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 12:57 PM »

Charles where do you find that?
What about it do you like?
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« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 01:01 PM »

Depends on the wind.. of course.

I'd say you should be fine with 500lbs in most cases. I'd say 750 in higher winds.
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« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 01:08 PM »

Charles where do you find that?
What about it do you like?
Technore is nice but the issue with it is that it it only stretches around 1.2% vs braided Dacron which has about 20%. In most cases you want some stretch with SLK as it adds as a type of shock absorber. It stretches out before it reaches it's breaking point.
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« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 01:55 PM »

Charles where do you find that?
What about it do you like?
I get Technora at Twinline USA.
Technora is similar to kevlar but has better UV resistance, smaller diameter and lighter than dacron, and my one of a kind kites wonít be cut out of the sky by someone flying their Disney Princess kite. A few years ago, I lost one of my Gibian kites to someone flying a Gayla kite too close to my kite. It ended up on the freeway a half mile from where it landed. There wasnít one usable stick left on the kite. That night I went home and ordered kevlar line to replace all my dacron. Now, Iíve switched to Technora. I canít take the chance of having my kites landing on the freeway again and causing an accident. Also, having that Gibian repaired was expensive.

Depends on the wind.. of course.

I'd say you should be fine with 500lbs in most cases. I'd say 750 in higher winds.

I agree with you, I was using the numbers from Gombergís site.

Technore is nice but the issue with it is that it it only stretches around 1.2% vs braided Dacron which has about 20%. In most cases you want some stretch with SLK as it adds as a type of shock absorber. It stretches out before it reaches it's breaking point.

I use tubular webbing at the anchors of my kites to prevent people from running into the line and it acts as a shock absorber as well.
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I heard people use all differ pound lines so thank you for the info!
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« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 06:43 PM »

I don't recall ever seeing any actual measures of kites' pulls at given wind speeds, which IMHO would be the best basis for choosing line strength. As I have some new kites to test I plan to add a spring scale to my kit & kaboodle so I can collect some data. Given the expense and added weight & drag of thicker & heavier test line there is every reason to use the lightest practical.

As to shock absorbing on SLKs, I have found the catenary usually suffices.
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« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 10:40 PM »

Had the opportunity to check out the Technora line Charles is using, and immediately went out and bought some in 200lb and 1200lb.  The 1200 is maybe as think as 300lb Dacron.  I am lucky enough to see many of Charles collection, and his collection of kites is astounding.  His choices and anchoring solutions are well thought out and proven... so why not ensure my little collection is just as safe? 

This Technora also allows me to create some clean fixed loops on the end of my flying lines as well. 
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