Norm's Custom Flight Straps

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[NormP]

Norm's Custom Flight Straps are sold right now at four internet kite stores. None of these stores have them listed on their webpages. Steve here at GWTW used to sell my straps, which were appropriately named (California Custom Flight Straps) and is the only store that had them listed on his webpages. He is also the ONLY one I would ever sell my straps to again. Don't bother asking me via a PM where they are sold, because I won't tell you. Let them sit on their shelves and rot. I work countless hours making them and they won't take the time to take pictures and put them on their pages so people can see them and buy them, which might keep me busy making and selling them. Recently I had an internet kite store that requested 50 pair of my straps. I didn't ask for a 50% good faith bargaining payment. When I completed the straps I sent them an e-mail telling them they were completed and ready to ship. A few days later they sent me an e-mail and said they would have to cancel their order. Thanks, that's all I need is 50 pair of Flight Straps laying around. I won't live long enough to use half that number. Fortunately for me I was able to sell them to yet another internet kite store. Again, I am NEVER selling another flight strap to an internet kite store unless Steve here at GWTW wants to sell them again. So, now I will give a few pair away to winners in the "Trick Challenge".

[Steve]

We need to talk

[NormP]

We need to talk

When?

[Steve]

you got my number? 530-513-6678
 I am sitting at my desk right now

[madhabitz]

and they won't take the time to take pictures and put them on their pages so people can see them 

Norm, it's likely that most online stores won't take pictures, as it's kind of expected that a product comes with marketing materials. It would be a very good thing for you to send along a few of yours, along with that video of Joe's showing his new grip (with his permission, of course).

You'll be talking to Steve, so this is probably a moot point...... just thought I'd mention it.

Nancy

[Steve]

we've spoken and you can expect to see California Custom Straps back at GWTW this spring.

[Ca Ike]

we've spoken and you can expect to see California Custom Straps back at GWTW this spring.

Cool now I don't have to bug Norm about where to get them   I missed the last wave Steve sold and have been able to use some that my fly group members have.  IMO there is no better strap out there for the comfort and quality.

[Tmadz]

Can't wait. I've got to try these. I like the ability to do on field adjustments to line length because I usually never check my lines until I notice something wrong. Happy to support Norm, but I still am going to earn a pair as well.

[NormP]

and they won't take the time to take pictures and put them on their pages so people can see them 

Norm, it's likely that most online stores won't take pictures, as it's kind of expected that a product comes with marketing materials. It would be a very good thing for you to send along a few of yours, along with that video of Joe's showing his new grip (with his permission, of course).

You'll be talking to Steve, so this is probably a moot point...... just thought I'd mention it.

Nancy

I appreciate your information, but you'll see pictures now.

[NormP]

Cool now I don't have to bug Norm about where to get them   I missed the last wave Steve sold and have been able to use some that my fly group members have.  IMO there is no better strap out there for the comfort and quality.

I recently purchased some Red 9/16" webbing. The sales person hot cut the webbing and put it in a bag for me. When I got home I took the webbing out to put it with my strap making supplies. It was stiff and had no luster/sheen. I was certain there was something different. So, I decided to contact the Rope Company. I wasn't expecting anything back, but received the reply below. After I received the reply below I decided to wash the webbing and see what would happen. I washed/soaked it in hot tap water and used liquid Dawn. (doesn't everybody) After a few minutes of washing I rinsed it and removed to dry. I let it dry completely and was surprised at the outcome. It was very pliable and gained it's sheen/luster back. Yes, I took David up on his offer to replace the Red with Purple, because I could never find Purple available for me to purchase. I think I was mostly shocked by the admission of leaving the webbing in the die too long, especially from a major Rope Manufactuer. 

Hi Norm,

Thank you for contacting us.  We did experience a problem with some red 9/16” webbing where it stayed in the dye too long and became stiff.  There is not a safety concern with the webbing but it does not handle as well as it should.  Do you need a replacement?  Just let me know, we’re happy to help. 

[thief]

Cool now I don't have to bug Norm about where to get them   I missed the last wave Steve sold and have been able to use some that my fly group members have.  IMO there is no better strap out there for the comfort and quality.

I recently purchased some Red 9/16" webbing. The sales person hot cut the webbing and put it in a bag for me. When I got home I took the webbing out to put it with my strap making supplies. It was stiff and had no luster/sheen. I was certain there was something different. So, I decided to contact the Rope Company. I wasn't expecting anything back, but received the reply below. After I received the reply below I decided to wash the webbing and see what would happen. I washed/soaked it in hot tap water and used liquid Dawn. (doesn't everybody) After a few minutes of washing I rinsed it and removed to dry. I let it dry completely and was surprised at the outcome. It was very pliable and gained it's sheen/luster back. Yes, I took David up on his offer to replace the Red with Purple, because I could never find Purple available for me to purchase. I think I was mostly shocked by the admission of leaving the webbing in the die too long, especially from a major Rope Manufactuer. 

Hi Norm,

Thank you for contacting us.  We did experience a problem with some red 9/16” webbing where it stayed in the dye too long and became stiff.  There is not a safety concern with the webbing but it does not handle as well as it should.  Do you need a replacement?  Just let me know, we’re happy to help. 

Was that New England Rope? I used to work next door to them and I know that they are a great company to work with!

[NormP]

Happy to support Norm, but I still am going to earn a pair as well.

My offer HERE applies to you as it does to username (red sweater) Also be SURE to read all the tips in my first post.   

[NormP]

Was that New England Rope? I used to work next door to them and I know that they are a great company to work with!

Sometimes I can be a little ruff around the edges, but as I have said before, I'm not in here to offend anybody and that includes the Major Rope Company. If it were your rope company I wouldn't have revealed the name either.      If you noticed I also didn't reveal the name of the internet kite store that ordered 50 pair of straps and later had to cancel their order.       

[thief]

no worries...just know them pretty well and would expect that sort of service from that rope shop....
the straps not being listed on the shop websites is just dumb....how do they expect to sell them?   I have every single item that is up for sale on my site...have to....i have no walk in location so everything is on the web.....
but then...i have a lot of experience from a kite shop that had a website in 1997 and a very solid walk in customer base so i have a different view than some of the fly-by-night websites trying to make a quick buck.....

Glad that Steve is able to help out!   

[red sweater]

we've spoken and you can expect to see California Custom Straps back at GWTW this spring.

To both of you guys, I'm very glad to hear this. Every time I ordered something this year, from any kite store, I've been looking through listings for better straps. Some stores list none, some have a listing marked out of stock with no restock date (presumably never?), and one listed straps and then told me they were out of stock after I tried to buy them.

Happy to support Norm, but I still am going to earn a pair as well.

My offer HERE applies to you as it does to username (red sweater) Also be SURE to read all the tips in my first post.   

Oh, I know I won't be able to win them. That's why I'm happy about being able to buy them. You should see my trophy room. It's nice and shiny, but it cost me a pretty penny.

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