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« on: April 19, 2016, 01:22 AM »

Can I ask which modern kites have rolled seams? The only ones I can think of are the TNT and the Widowmaker. Are there any others?
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2016, 03:43 AM »

x (alphakites)
some level one kites (or some seams in some level one kites)

let the think about more...


why are you asking?
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2016, 06:12 AM »

I am curious. I kinda like them. For me it completes a kite and gives almost a pin-striping effect. Plus it's a bit old school  Cool
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2016, 07:28 AM »

It is my understanding that you can only have straight seams

to use the rolled construction. So any kite with curved panels is out.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2016, 12:30 PM »

I'm not following.. Picture anyone?
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2016, 01:49 PM »

Adjacent panels have folded material so that the cut edges are

captured within the sewn boundaries.

The folded area is several layers thick so it is much darker.

All those dark areas are straight even though they appear curved.

https://picasaweb.google.com/chilesej/AntelopeIslandStampedeFestival2011#5649104514311189426
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2016, 02:45 PM »

Though it is difficult, it is not impossible to have rolled seams and curved panels. One of the first kites that I bought from GWTW was an Elliot Aviv and it had beautifully sewn Flat Felled seams with nary a wrinkle in the sail.  Someone really knew how to operate a sewing machine.


(not my photo) pair of Elliot Avivs.
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2016, 03:52 PM »



Aviv detail
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2016, 05:33 PM »

^that blue fade Aviv is my favourite, I should track down the guy I traded it to and see if I can get it back...
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2016, 10:08 PM »

^that blue fade Aviv is my favourite, I should track down the guy I traded it to and see if I can get it back...

They may leave our hands but they seldom leave our hearts...
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2016, 10:48 PM »

The TNT even has rolled seams for the LE tunnels, which i had never seen before....

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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2016, 01:38 AM »

I'm not following.. Picture anyone?

Even better... video!
Lapped seams are typically sewn on a twin needle machine with a folding attachment. They produce really well finished seams, VERY quickly!

Check out this video
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2016, 12:24 PM »

I'm not following.. Picture anyone?


Even better... video!
Lapped seams are typically sewn on a twin needle machine with a folding attachment. They produce really well finished seams, VERY quickly!

Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=$1#errorNo longer available


Kevin, your video is not playing for me, is this what you guys mean, what is referred to as the French seam?
https://aca780c6-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/kites4all/home/kite-sewing-101/french01.jpg?
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2016, 05:41 PM »

I'm not following.. Picture anyone?


Even better... video!
Lapped seams are typically sewn on a twin needle machine with a folding attachment. They produce really well finished seams, VERY quickly!




Hmmm... some weird BBS editing going on in the background!  Try putting this address into your browser [noparse]www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnBV6DUaGqU[/noparse]

or search in youtube for - "YAMA standard seaming "


Kevin, your video is not playing for me, is this what you guys mean, what is referred to as the French seam?



Oops, my bad.  You're correct, French seams have been used on the Aviv (and other kites).  The lapped seams like those in the video were used on Highly Strung kites in the late 90s / early 2000s
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