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« on: January 20, 2013, 06:09 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2013, 08:44 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2013, 09:52 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2013, 09:57 AM »

either or. give people a choice If there is only one possible then ,, without I also like having a round ring as opposed to the trianglethese are my go to to ul straps
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2013, 10:44 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2013, 01:00 PM »

I prefer them without, but could see why folks would want them.  I cut down to one or sometimes just take it off and connect to the plastic piece directly.

I put the bridle loop on the lines and do minor length adjustments between recuts with a knot in that line.

Personally, I would keep your straps like they are, but use a lighter line weight.  If someone doesn't like it, they can just adjust like I do by taking it off.  I think most people would likely just use it as-is.

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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2013, 03:43 PM »

With. One could always take them out if they caused that much trouble. 
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2013, 07:38 AM »

I'm not sure I have a strong opinion either way. I've never had straps with pigtails. Would the reduced cost be passed on to customers?
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2013, 08:15 AM »

Larksheading the lines directly to the D ring is the way to go if simplicity is the goal. If your lines are off so much that a knotted pigtail is handy, then line snags are probably the least of your worries.  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2013, 08:48 AM »

I can see how it would take quite a bit of time to put in the knots in even spacing.

I say put in a pigtail with enough length so the user could put in an adjustment knot or two if he wants them.

So, in one word: without.
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2013, 08:53 AM »


Without as well.
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2013, 11:31 AM »

I'd say leave them as is and let the buyer choose.  I prefer having the pig tail myself and have never had issues with line snags at the straps.  I always fly with my index fingers on the line and the pigtails are a lot nicer than the bare line or sleeve loops.  I rarely use the equalizer knots but they do make for good fingertip grip .
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2013, 09:29 AM »

Ah, so the material cost isn't very large, but the time factor is, right? In a true manufacturing process, that adds to the total cost. I assume that you're not paying yourself fairly for that time investment.

I'll certainly buy a set, probably "with" pigtails given the choice (if it only adds a quarter, why not?), even if only out of curiosity. I don't have the social aspect of this hobby down (i.e., no group to meet up with), so buying a relatively inexpensive item is the best way for me to see if I like it. I might feel a twinge of guilt if I don't like them and undo them. What with the deal you're giving out on the labor side.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2013, 09:32 AM »

See if he will sell you a complete lineset.  I bought 2 from Norm recently (including finger straps) and they are the best linesets I've ever bought. 
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2013, 04:00 PM »

I assume that you're not paying yourself fairly for that time investment.
If I charged for larbor NOBODY could afford them.

This must be a lobor of love and your passion.
Thanks Norm, I love your wrist straps.


I place my index fingers on the line-equalizers for better and subtle line inputs. 

I will try this next time I am flying.
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