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« on: June 04, 2009, 01:06 AM »

Does anyone have first hand experience with either or both of these kites and what is your opinion of them?

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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2009, 05:56 AM »

They're great.  Different style than I'm used to so I had to adjust, but great kites.  The Hydra is tons of fun.
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2009, 07:31 AM »

I got my Hydra 2 or 3 weeks ago and I absolutely love it.  The thing that strikes me about it is that it can do the modern, pitch and rollup based tricks and the old school, flatspin and 540 tricks.  So many kites seem to trade one for the other, it's great to have one kite that does both so well.

It also has a remarkable wind range, it'll fly in less wind than my Zephyr thanks to the mylar-reinforced trailing edge, but still fly into the higher wind ranges without pulling like a dump truck. 

It's definitely a freestyle kite, so I wouldn't use it in precision competition, but the tricks just roll out of it and string together beautifully.

While I haven't personally flown the Jinx, I've seen some of the other locals around here flying them.  From what I understand, the Jinx came first and is the full size, comp oriented kite; the Hydra is the .85 size freestyle evolution (some early sketches refer to it as 'Baby Jinx').
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2009, 10:31 AM »

Wait a second. RonG and I both like the same kite?Huh? I must be in an alternate universe today.  Huh
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2009, 10:47 AM »

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[...] it'll fly in less wind than my Zephyr thanks to the mylar-reinforced trailing edge [...]

I don't understand how a Mylar trailing edge helps low wind flight, can you explain please?
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2009, 11:10 AM »

I don't understand how a Mylar trailing edge helps low wind flight, can you explain please?

Well, I watched Paul de Bakker fly his Hydra in 1-2mph winds last month, and I asked about it.  His response was that it was possible because of the Mylar trailing edge. Basically, Mylar is used in kites where a non-flexible shape is desired.  So by putting Mylar across the trailing edge, the TE holds it's shape instead of requiring a stronger amount of wind to fill it out.  I've seem Mark Reed make similar claims regarding Prism designs... Mylar is used where the kite designer wants the sail to retain a specific shape, instead of being deformed by variable wind conditions.
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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2009, 11:43 AM »

The Hydra ia a great kite that I flew at Wildwood for several hours with DeBaker. Its only available in the Standard but as mentioned it has a great wind range. The only real difference I found of the Hydra to my current Sea Devils (my current flying machines) is that it requires LESS! input for the FLARE to FADE. JL rungs are easy & smooth. There is no high PULL of the kite across the main wind window like a QPro in 12 mph+ winds and it was the best kite I flew at Wildwood that is considered new for 2009 or new to me anyway ... I have not flown a Talon or the new Nirvana SE ... but dollar for dollar its a winner in my opinion. The Jinx is currently being re-designed from my conversation with Paul DeBaker so the Hydra is your choice (again - my opinion). I also tested out the Skate which is also a neat  little TOY  Cheesy. HYDRA - Great tricking capability ... wide wind range ... good price. THe HYDRA is a WINNER. Wink Wink Wink .
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2009, 01:40 PM »

Thanks to everyone for your input! I think I'm leaning towards the Hydra. Btw I have a Skate in by bag. It's great to have on those no wind days for us die hards who just have to fly something no matter what the wind conditions are:)
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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2009, 06:25 PM »

The Hydra ia a great kite that I flew at Wildwood for several hours with DeBaker. Its only available in the Standard but as mentioned it has a great wind range. The only real difference I found of the Hydra to my current Sea Devils (my current flying machines) is that it requires LESS! input for the FLARE to FADE. JL rungs are easy & smooth. There is no high PULL of the kite across the main wind window like a QPro in 12 mph+ winds and it was the best kite I flew at Wildwood that is considered new for 2009 or new to me anyway ... I have not flown a Talon or the new Nirvana SE ... but dollar for dollar its a winner in my opinion. The Jinx is currently being re-designed from my conversation with Paul DeBaker so the Hydra is your choice (again - my opinion). I also tested out the Skate which is also a neat  little TOY  Cheesy. HYDRA - Great tricking capability ... wide wind range ... good price. THe HYDRA is a WINNER. Wink Wink Wink .

John, how would you compare the Hydra and the Exile?
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