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« on: February 07, 2013, 11:53 AM »

I wonder what will happen if there is let's say an 8g of metal beads freely rolling on the spine.  So what will happen is that when the kite is flying nose up, all the weight will be at the tail, and flying nose down, all the weight at the nose.  In lazy susan, it will be nose heavy (deeper LZ?)  and in fade it will be tail heavy (more stable fade?).  Does that make any sense?

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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2013, 12:10 PM »

There have been a few kites which used a sliding weight in the spine.

It didn't catch on. But maybe it wasn't done correctly.

Sounds like you should do an experiment.

Now go get your balls (bearings of course) rolling.
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2013, 12:47 PM »

Google or search the forum for: Level One Sliding Weight system....
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2013, 01:38 PM »

Technically, if you got the weighting right you could do a rising flare  Cool

What about active aerodynamics which change the sail profile?

How about specific areas of the bridle which are elasticated which change the angle of attack in different winds speeds or create more 'powered' yo yo's, backspins or yo-fades?  Cool

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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2013, 01:51 PM »

I tried the elastic bridle bits for widening the windrange

by automatically changing the Angle Of Attack.

It worked for that, but tricks suffered a great deal.
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2013, 02:04 PM »

I was kinda joking. Forgive the oxymoron but is there anything you haven't thought of ?  Cool
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2013, 02:45 PM »

I wonder what will happen if there is let's say an 8g of metal beads freely rolling on the spine. 


Certainly if you flew the kite straight up and straight down for any length of time the beads would shift to one end or the other. In freestyle flying the movement between tricks and parts of tricks, even with a fairly slow and relaxed flying style, would probably keep the beads from moving the full length of the tube. Inertia would do its thing and by the time the beads got started the kite would be doing something else.

For actual flying the shifting weights would be a real problem. 8 grams in the nose of some kites can make them unsteady, especially in tight turns. You can certainly compensate, but the weight would keep changing. Flying would look sloppy.
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2013, 06:06 PM »

Sliding weights have too many issues.  THe changing weight location really screws with  flying and a lot of tricks, When doing trick combos the weigh will never slide. Once you back flipthe weight wil go to the nose and won't return to the tail untill you go to fly off after the combo.  YOu also have to figure out how far to let it slide.  Tip of the tail to 3" above the T works on some kites but is too much on others.  Its a real pain to set up.
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2013, 06:19 PM »

My favorite kites fly extremely well with no tail weight at all.  I've played around with this on my fearless and Trans several times.  It does everything but fast yoyos. 

So, aside from pitch speed, do you really need weight anywhere other than the tail?  I suppose each kite is different, but I think it's balance should be stable. 

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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2013, 06:22 PM »

My favorite kites fly extremely well with no tail weight at all.  I've played around with this on my fearless and Trans several times.  It does everything but fast yoyos. 

So, aside from pitch speed, do you really need weight anywhere other than the tail?  I suppose each kite is different, but I think it's balance should be stable. 


I can't agree more.  My favorite kites fly great with no weight at all and need very small amounts to enhance pitch speed.
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