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Author Topic: Ripstop Nylon vs Ripstop Polyester  (Read 9468 times)
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« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2013, 09:06 AM »

As mentioned, Joanne's is not a good source for kite fabric. It's okay for tails and the like but not for actual kite building. The coating on that fabric is not the same. Fabric from Joanne's will allow air to pass right through it. If you have a kite try blowing through the fabric. Try it with Joanne's fabric and you will notice the difference. This is _huge_ when it comes to kites. Kite fabric is not much more expensive and honestly... if you are going to invest 15, 20, 40 hours in a kite you might as well use materials that will allow it to fly well.

You guys don't have to (work really hard to) convince me not to use it. I just was ignorant of the differences. Thanks for setting me straight before I wasted time and money on that stuff.
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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2013, 09:14 AM »

honestly being down in the Baltimore area you could wander around the sail maker shops and ask if they might have any scraps you could get from them....I know that there was an old kite maker in Fall River Massachusetts who was a monthly visitor to Thurston Sails in local Bristol RI....Rene would pick up all of their scraps for very cheap....and since they are making sails for large boats the scraps would be funky shapes but sometimes also very large bits (large to a kite maker) that would be too small for them to consider using.....
material for sailboats is pretty darn good for kites....just look at Will Sturdy and his kites....
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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2013, 09:46 AM »

This is one of the top ten threads.  I got a lot out of it.  It would be great to continue this discussion to include other materials.  There is so much good knowledge on this forum or else a good collection of bsers.  I think the former.

I am curious about orcon and some of the other fighter kite materials.

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« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2013, 10:26 AM »

Orcon compared to what?
Orcon is very cool....a nice material if you can find it....
frays/shreds like mad with use....but it is super light and quite durable.....

the next sort of material that might be in the same genre could be the lightest weight cuben (if you can find that affordable!)
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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2013, 05:05 PM »

I've heard Jon T over at Skyburner Kites (link on right)
Unless my computer isn't loading the Skyburner advertisement up, Jon no longer has a link.
It is there skyshark/skyburner
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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2013, 06:31 PM »

It is there skyshark/skyburner
I've watched the ad four times and don't see it.......weird.
I see Skyburner, which is advertised at  A Wind of Change.

It is the last advertisement on the running banner so it does not stay in view for long, and flips between skyshark and skyburner
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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2013, 06:33 PM »

Right after Prism and before Kitekids.
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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2013, 08:03 PM »

Orcon is no longer made, I think Kitebuilder still has some and Bruce Lambert on fighter kite central used to offer some of his stock to members. If you check Doug Stouts threads in the kite design threads he's found a supplier for Cuben fabrics and is currently making one of his Hawks out of it. I'm anxious for his review on how it is to work with, he did not like working with Orcon.
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« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2013, 06:20 PM »

Most modern parachutes are made of ZP Ripstop nylon, or zero porosity.  I believe it would make excellent kite material, however it is very slippery and can be difficult to sew until you learn a few tricks.

I'm also a sailor, skydiver and parachute rigger.
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« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2013, 06:43 PM »

Guess I haven't really seen a newer parachute, the old ones didn't use a fabric we would want in our kites. The surplus ones we can still buy here are very porous, uncoated stuff. I would imagine the foil types to very close to our power foils though.

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« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2013, 05:19 AM »

Lowpuller is the ZP nylon silicone coated to give weather resistance?   That might be why it is so slick.....
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« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2013, 06:18 PM »

Not for weather resistance but for porosity.  The attempt at zero porosity give the ram air parachute a more rigid feel, it acts as a stiffer wing.
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