GWTW Forum
July 23, 2014, 07:10 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News:
 
   Home   Help Forum Info Login Register Chat  
Welcome to the GWTW Forum.
Guests (non-registered users) can view the forum but are unable to post.  If you don't have anything to say then why would you bother to register?
One of the most popular sections of the GWTW Forum has long been the Swap Meet.  A great place to sell old, seldom flown kites or to get great deals on used (gently flown) kites.  Only registered users can see the Swap Meet section, let alone wheel and deal.  1000's (literally) of kites have changed hands thanks to the Swap Meet.
There are several more benefits to being a registered user, but you'll have to join our little community to find out all the "secrets".
Questions or concerns? Contact Steve ... just drop an email to: forum.gwtwkites@gmail.com

Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Windows 8  (Read 3037 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
ezme6
Trade Count: (+17)
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 816

Location:

« on: March 26, 2013, 04:10 PM »

 Embarrassed
I am computer stupid, cant upload fotos from my camera, cant edit them, but I guess if I cant upload I don't need to edit  Cry
« Last Edit: March 26, 2013, 04:22 PM by ezme6 » Logged

"Do what you like"
thief
Board Moderator
Trade Count: (+25)
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 3513


Location: North Shore of Massa-WHO-setts

WWW
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2013, 05:13 AM »

despise windows8 but was forced to get it.....urgh.....
Logged

Kites kayaks & corgis again!!!
RobB
Trade Count: (+9)
*****
Online Online

Posts: 1369


Location: Long Island

WWW
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2013, 06:19 AM »

If you order your computer online, you can specify that it be loaded with Windows7. We order PCs from HP, and they call it 'Windows7 downgrade' or 'WinXP downgrade'. PC manufacturers realize that a lot of business applications aren't Win8 compatible, and keep the older operating systems available. Those PCs also come with a Win8 'upgrade' disk, so you can load 8 in the future.
Windows 8 sucks if you don't have a touch screen or touch mouse, it seems to ge more geared towards the tablet/phone environment. I've had to setup PCs that my customers went out and bought themselves, Win8 just gets in the way if you only have an old-fashioned mouse & keyboard.
If you have Win8, and can't stand the interface, you can try using a 'classic shell', which makes it work more like old Windows...

http://www.classicshell.net/

Logged

red sweater
Trade Count: (0)
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 300

Location: Columbia, MD

« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2013, 06:35 AM »

Yeah, I watch those commercials and cannot fathom why anyone would want that on a desktop computer.
Logged

My bag:
HQ Breeze, Silver Fox 2.3 Pro UL, Nirvana Std, Prism Quantum
ITW Mesa DC, Premier Popper Line Climber
Rev EXP
tcope
Trade Count: (+4)
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 482


Location: Salt Lake City, UT

WWW
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2013, 07:47 AM »

What makes Windows 8 even more of a failure is lack of native apps. How long has Win8 been out.... and they _still_ don't have a good library of apps for it. I pretty much stay stay in the Desktop (i.e. Win7) 99.9% of the time.

The thing that is really insulting is many of the "free" apps in the Win8 store are just links to the developers site where you can pay for the Win7 software.

MS = home of the consumer beta test.
Logged

Todd Copeland
Member of T.I.S.K.K
Memeber of Utah Kite Fliers
http://www.utahkitefliers.org
thief
Board Moderator
Trade Count: (+25)
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 3513


Location: North Shore of Massa-WHO-setts

WWW
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2013, 08:55 AM »

yeah..that is the problem for me...i have two android tablets that i use constantly...and the GUI for windows 8 is definitely a tablet/touchscreen design and so trying to use it on a laptop is frustrating as all get out......plus all of the weirdly forced windows things too....(how those apps work etc).....
urgh...we had to get a new laptop in a very short time frame (hours) so the ability of working to get a win 7 was not possible.......
Logged

Kites kayaks & corgis again!!!
RobB
Trade Count: (+9)
*****
Online Online

Posts: 1369


Location: Long Island

WWW
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2013, 08:58 AM »

Load the classic shell... it will put you back in a familiar place.
Logged

tpatter
Trade Count: (+21)
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1936

Location: Seattle, WA

WWW
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2013, 09:26 AM »

Hopefully, they can somehow fix this.  Its like the computer has 2 incompatible personalities. 

I like how there new one looks, but prefer how the old one works.
Logged

6 kite tom
madhabitz
Trade Count: (+4)
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 781


Location: Pleasanton, CA

« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2013, 10:35 AM »

Load the classic shell... it will put you back in a familiar place.
Oh man, this is a volatile subject for me, as I am slowly being shoved toward Win8 because of my aging computer.

I loved XP. I had all the programs I needed/wanted and they ran great until a hardrive crash & I hurried to get a new machine with Vista. Hadn't had time to reseach it first. Imagine my shock to find out that 85% of my programs couldn't be installed anymore. Gads, it was a devastating experience and I don't think I've gotten over it yet. Quark is the only program that made a transition without a whimper. I lost all of my Adobe programs- had to spring for Photoshop which was a huge expense for me. Lost Excel and Access, not to mention Word, which drives me nuts but you have to have from time to time.

Okay, so now I am faced with this happening all over again. I don't trust this transition, can't afford the expense in time, let alone money.

Classic interface? That's what they said about the transition to Vista, except they kept it an egg hunt to figure out how to make it happen. I have to have the Classic. All my muscle memory is tied to it and am not too willing to put the time and effort into something they're just going to change again in a couple of years.

Bitter much? You betcha.

/rant
Logged

"I haven't failed. I've just found ten-thousand ways that won't work."   -Thomas Edison
madhabitz
Trade Count: (+4)
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 781


Location: Pleasanton, CA

« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2013, 10:41 AM »

If you order your computer online, you can specify that it be loaded with Windows7. We order PCs from HP, and they call it 'Windows7 downgrade' or 'WinXP downgrade'.

I will check this out for sure. Thanks!
Logged

"I haven't failed. I've just found ten-thousand ways that won't work."   -Thomas Edison
indigo_wolf
Trade Count: (+10)
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1172


Location: North of Washington, DC (USA)

« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2013, 11:46 AM »

  • Windows XP still had some warts on it....
  • Windows Vista was a little bit of make-up on an ugly duckling.
  • Windows 7 cleaned up a lot of stuff and still suffered from the "let's move features to new places where users will never think to find them" syndrome of each new iteration of windows.  However they still got a lot of things right and the system, while not perfect,  went a long way to making Windows "self-tuning/self-optimizing."
  • Windows 8 is an absolute blight on mankind.  They mashed two paradigms (desktop/tablet) together and both aspects suffered for it.  Waaaaay too much of the OS is geared to hard-selling you missing features.   It's the equivalent of a car made with a gearbox made by cavemen or if it were a movie, it would have been Highlander II: The Quickening.

A desktop is not a tablet.

This is the same stupidity prevalent among car makers... a car is not a tablet.

LaFontaine Cadillac - 2013 Cadillac XTS | "Buttons" Commercial - Highland, MI


Cars had distinct buttons so that you could operate them without taking your eye off the road.... idjits!!!   Angry

Car makers should be held liable for every accident that's caused by some driver with his/her eyes glued to the soft controls of their car's media/climate/etc. controls.

Windows 8 adoption among corporate customers is abyssmal.... Microsoft should take a hint.

Tom: What camera do you have?  Have you connected to the PC with a cable?  It should install the software for the camera and the storage on the camera should appear as another drive that you can copy the image files from.

You can download one of the freeware image programs (believe Xnview still works under Windows 8 under the desktop shell, not the Metro interface).   As far as uploading, where are you uploading too and how were you trying to upload?

ATB,
Sam
Logged
chilese
Global Moderator
Trade Count: (+5)
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 3005


Location: Las Vegas, NV

WWW
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2013, 12:14 PM »

Oh look, an Apple store.
Logged

John Chilese: Las Vegas, NV
http://picasaweb.google.com/chilesej
madhabitz
Trade Count: (+4)
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 781


Location: Pleasanton, CA

« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2013, 12:30 PM »

    Quote
    • Windows XP still had some warts on it....
    Well yeah... but they were familiar warts and in the grand scheme of things, it just plain worked.

    Quote
    • Windows Vista was a little bit of make-up on an ugly duckling.
    Vista sucks. Permissions scheme alone were enough to hate it.

    Quote
    • Windows 7 cleaned up a lot of stuff and still suffered from the "let's move features to new places where users will never think to find them" syndrome of each new iteration of windows.  However they still got a lot of things right and the system, while not perfect,  went a long way to making Windows "self-tuning/self-optimizing."
    I had one computer with Win7 and hated it also. Still couldn't install programs and it was chock full of glitchies.

    Quote
    • Windows 8 is an absolute blight on mankind.  They mashed two paradigms (desktop/tablet) together and both aspects suffered for it.  Waaaaay too much of the OS is geared to hard-selling you missing features.   It's the equivalent of a car made with a gearbox made by cavemen or if it were a movie, it would have been Highlander II: The Quickening.
    [/list] [/quote]
    Oy.

    Quote
    Cars had distinct buttons so that you could operate them without taking your eye off the road.... idjits!!!   Angry

    Car makers should be held liable for every accident that's caused by some driver with his/her eyes glued to the soft controls of their car's media/climate/etc. controls.
    I will never forget the time I made a left turn onto an intersection, to find a police car stopped in the middle of it. I stopped behind him, thinking something was up- thought he was going to get out to direct traffic or something. I waited and waited.... didn't dare go around him, right? Long time later I began to wonder if he was hurt. Got out and approached the car..... turned out he was really into his onboard keyboard computer-thing and got a tad sidetracked. Grin
    Logged

    "I haven't failed. I've just found ten-thousand ways that won't work."   -Thomas Edison
    madhabitz
    Trade Count: (+4)
    ****
    Offline Offline

    Posts: 781


    Location: Pleasanton, CA

    « Reply #13 on: March 27, 2013, 12:40 PM »

    Oh look, an Apple store.
    No lie. For the first time ever, I am actually considering it.
    Logged

    "I haven't failed. I've just found ten-thousand ways that won't work."   -Thomas Edison
    madhabitz
    Trade Count: (+4)
    ****
    Offline Offline

    Posts: 781


    Location: Pleasanton, CA

    « Reply #14 on: March 27, 2013, 12:43 PM »



    Thanks for this Rob, looks promising. I couldn't get any hits for "XP downgrade" on the HP site. Will calling them do the trick?
    Logged

    "I haven't failed. I've just found ten-thousand ways that won't work."   -Thomas Edison
    Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Up
      Print  
     
    Jump to:  


    items purchased through the links below help support the forum

    Our forum is made possible by the good folks whose ads appear below and by the members of our community (PayPal donation button at bottom)
    In case you missed it each ad is linked to the sponsors web site.  So please, take a moment and visit our sponsors sites as this forum wouldn't be possible with out them.
    Interested in running an ad for your business or kiting event?  Contact Steve at advertise.gwtwkites@gmail.com for a quote.

    Kite Classifieds Ad
    Kite Classifieds

    A Wind Of Change
    A Wind Of Change

    Kitebookie
    Kitebookie.com

    Untitled Document

    Untitled Document
    Untitled Document

    Untitled Document
    Untitled Document


    Untitled Document
    DOLLAR SHAVE CLUB

    Support the GWTW Forum

    Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.8 | SMF © 2006-2008, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!