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Author Topic: Le Quartz Project - First time behind the sewing machine!  (Read 6032 times)
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« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2013, 11:52 PM »

You could sand that camo off, but I did give a quick attempt once and it would've been far too much work for what? Jon sold the original Freestylists with Camo rods to keep costs down, and the kite is still one of my favorites. I've used them for replacements and reframed a TOTL Hawaiian in camo P400's, they've never bothered me. If it really bothers you take a Sharpie to them where the camo might show through the spreader cut outs.

BWT, your first attempt looks nice, especially considering using a fabric store ripstop. I tried some of that stuff once on an experiment and found it nearly impossible to work with, at least compared to true sail fabric. Be looking forward to seeing what you do with a more stable fabric.

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« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2013, 11:59 AM »

BWT, your first attempt looks nice, especially considering using a fabric store ripstop. I tried some of that stuff once on an experiment and found it nearly impossible to work with, at least compared to true sail fabric. Be looking forward to seeing what you do with a more stable fabric.

Thanks for the compliment.  I learned an incredible amount of information on kite building.  The fabric store ripstop was hard to work with initially, then again it was my first time sewing anyway.  I learned to understand my machine and what it took to sew this material type.  If proper sail fabric is easier to work with then I can't wait.  I still want to purchase a Singer Heavy Duty which I feel with its feature set I could do much better work with less effort.  I still want to try a few other products for sail fabrication so I may do one more sail in this material for cost.  Once all my assembly materials are established I will try the proper sail ripstop nylons.  Then after that move to Icarex when I know what kite type and colors I like best!
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« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2013, 03:15 PM »

Well, my Nocks, P2X camo and B-Stock Nitro STD (unsanded) rods came in today.  I completed the frame and changed the leech line to the bungie tension system.  Yes, I didn't use the best materials first time out, in fact there is zero Dacron and Mylar in this particular sail because I never expected to actually successfully complete this, so I saved those materials for the next sail build, but I am still pretty proud of it.  I made mistakes and learned from them.  I incorporated different techniques of assembly not listed on Tom's site and made a better, more adjustable kite than expected.  I have all the part numbers and specifications cataloged.  I also now have the processes understood where before I was confused or was just totally lost based on some of the minor holes in the instructional.  I would like to thank everyone who helped me with my questions and to guys like Tom and sugarbaker who post their step-by-step build efforts.  Without those instructionals I would have asked a ton more questions!!  Total cost of this build in materials was approximately $65.00   Cheesy

















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« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2013, 05:15 PM »

Looks great! Going to fly it soon ?
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« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2013, 06:56 PM »

I'm sadly not in possession of any suitable line at the moment.  I have the 150# 100ft set from the Nukes for HW which is anchor line for this smaller kite.  I did make a 25# 50ft set from Walmart Dyneema line for $2.25, until I purchase the right set.  If the 25# doesn't seem too weak on short lines I should be able to launch her Saturday.

What is typical for this size/type kite?  I would think around a 90/90?  I think a local shop here in Titusville, FL has some Shanti Speed Line 85ft/90# sleeved with winder for $36.  I'm trying to keep this a budget build but may need to spend some cash on appropriate line.
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« Reply #50 on: April 18, 2013, 04:41 AM »

90# line would work.....personally i have 150# lines on all of my sport kites....including the just over 6' Aziza.....

Walmart has dyneema? from what department? fishing?Huh???hmm.....weird....

i know where there are some good priced linesets....
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« Reply #51 on: April 18, 2013, 05:41 AM »

Well done Spectra!
It is really nice to see how you undertook the project with caution to see where you could get to and that in the end everything came out so well.
This makes us all be looking forward to seeing it fly as well as seeing what will be the formal/final sail with the best material.
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« Reply #52 on: April 18, 2013, 06:03 AM »

90# line would work.....personally i have 150# lines on all of my sport kites....including the just over 6' Aziza.....

Walmart has dyneema? from what department? fishing?Huh???hmm.....weird....

i know where there are some good priced linesets....

There is a small kite section in our local Walmart at this time of year.  I purchased an extra small roll of line for my daughters $10 foil kite and the material description is actually nylon LOL!!  Not sure why I thought it read dyneema.  Apparently thats some good stuff.

If you are using 150# without much issue I'll just use that then.  I think I may be going home early this morning so I may try to head over to Cocoa Beach and get a launch today!
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« Reply #53 on: April 18, 2013, 06:09 AM »

Well done Spectra!
It is really nice to see how you undertook the project with caution to see where you could get to and that in the end everything came out so well.
This makes us all be looking forward to seeing it fly as well as seeing what will be the formal/final sail with the best material.
Cheers!


I appreciate the kind words and at this time feel compelled to leave this particular Le Quartz as it is.  I started the project on my daughter's 8th birthday and she helped me glue the panels in place that afternoon.  Maybe, I may return to it to create a performance sail.  Maybe I will just build an entire Le Quartz.  I sort of have an attachment to its crudeness in materials.  A sort of McGyver of kites for me.  Cool

I intend to start my next kite build with proper materials in a larger size like the Invictus/Sixth Sense/Vortex/Iridium projects.
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« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2013, 06:32 AM »

Here is also a video of my son trying the kite out for the first time.  I still have not completed a weight system for this kite so the tail tends to fly loose and doesnt sit downward at all.  Looks like I need to start making another kite as he really seems to like kite flying.  He also attempted some tricks he thought he understood from a Prism Tutorial Video although not successful in any of them I give him an A+ for effort!

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r167/photobucket2007_bucket/2013-04-18_18-52-54_623.mp4
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« Reply #55 on: April 19, 2013, 12:00 PM »

Great!
Looks really pretty in the sky and flies quite well for being all the low cost materials!
And yes, you must foster your child to continue flying. He's already doing nice turtles!
Cheers.
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« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2013, 11:47 AM »

Been pretty busy at work so haven't updated much this week.  Took the family and kite out to the Space Coast over the weekend and flew it for a couple hours in 15+ / 20+ gust winds.  Held up quite nicely although still needed a weight system in the tail and didn't get around to crafting that portion until today.  I went to Lowe's and found bronze spacers weighing 6.5 grams each and o-rings that worked out quite well.  I will need to either machine these spacers in half for a more finite ballast control or go online and order them in the shorter sizes.  13 grams seems to be ok for my slightly heavier bottom end kite.  I again am not sure how the majority of people run the leech line but I passed the line across and through the APA connector hole for each line.  I didn't like the line drag on the rubber through the hole and I really didn't like NOT running the leech line through the APA connector at all, so I cut a short piece of P2X tube and insert it into the APA connector making sure to round out the edges smoothly.  The leech line passes through very nicely and the APA hole has rigidity and support now.  Looks to be working out very well.

I also purchased from Amazon.com a refurbished Singer Heavy Duty 4423 and Even Feed / Walking Foot for $60.00 + $16.97 + Free Shipping, which came in yesterday.  This machine sews like a dream and through just about anything, even wood and lead (youtube promo video.. no way I'm trying that!).  I later went to Staples and had the Invictus, Sixth Sense, Iridium and Vortex blueprints printed on A0 and got those laid out on the work bench.  I need to decide which one to build first.  Once the materials arrive I will start a legitimate kite build.   Grin















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« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2013, 02:52 AM »

Nice work!

Don't forget to send a picture of your build to the creators of the website. They will add it to the builds page.
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« Reply #58 on: April 26, 2013, 11:14 AM »

i know where there are some good priced linesets....

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